Originally Posted by ktulu' date='Jun 13 2005, 10:01 AM

lcc014:
What was your buddies intention or his dealer's. I assume you live in the U.S? Is your buddy insinuating that American workers are ignorant and lazy? If it is built in the U.S. it must be a piece of crap! All Americans are slugs! Wouldn't that include your buddy and his MB dealer? They too must fit that stereotype!

I recently visited the South Carolina factory where ALL X5s and Z4s are made and exported to other countries. All Z3's were also made there as well as the 318. I feel more confident than ever that the X5 and the Z4 are built to the same standards as bimmers built in Germany. Why wouldn't they be? They are bimmers regardless of what nationality of human builds them. My family heritage is German and I have great respect for the German people but as an American I would take it as an offense if someone insinuated that just because it is built here it must mean it is inferior. American cars are crap (for the most part) because American car companies are crap(my opinion) not because American workers are lazy and stupid. (The Union helps too!)

One note about BMWs South Carolina plant. They were the first foreign car company to export vehicles from the U.S. to other countries. As an American that makes me even more proud to own a BMW. Especially with "American" car companies starting to import there own cars into America. To me that seems wrong. The ratio of X5s exported from SC is 60/40. Quite a substantial number.

Sorry I had to release. I dislike Car salesmen..especially pompass MB jerk offs!

Originally Posted by rodybmw' date='Jun 13 2005, 07:12 AM

When I visited the Dingolfing factory during my Euro Delivery they said that all the 5, 6, and 7 series have always been built at Dingolfing, and they still are.? If there are E60's produced elsewhere then they are probably assembled there.......I can't remember what BMW calls this.....somthing like "knockdown kit" or...?????

Originally Posted by cobradav' date='Jun 13 2005, 01:17 PM

Gee I wonder what the VIN tells me - Oh yea, country of manufacture (position 1), and plant (position 11)

I just love how urban legends get started and promulgate through the masses.

All the pictures and descriptions of plant tours at Dingolfing, Germany? during ED were brought to you by the same folks that produced "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind" ?

Originally Posted by Rudy' date='Jun 13 2005, 04:12 PM

[quote name='cobradav' date='Jun 13 2005, 01:17 PM']Gee I wonder what the VIN tells me - Oh yea, country of manufacture (position 1), and plant (position 11)

I just love how urban legends get started and promulgate through the masses.

All the pictures and descriptions of plant tours at Dingolfing, Germany?? during ED were brought to you by the same folks that produced "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind" ?

Originally Posted by Rudy' date='Jun 13 2005, 05:17 PM

[quote name='Iceman' date='Jun 13 2005, 09:40 AM']ALL E60's are made in Dingolfing, Germany. There are NO OTHER places where they build E60's!

Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Jun 15 2005, 02:00 AM

[quote name='Rudy' date='Jun 13 2005, 05:17 PM'][quote name='Iceman' date='Jun 13 2005, 09:40 AM']ALL E60's are made in Dingolfing, Germany. There are NO OTHER places where they build E60's!

Originally Posted by Bart001' date='Jun 15 2005, 01:36 PM

The idea that BMW puts cars on boats in the USA, floats them around a while and then brings them back, is objectively ridiculous.

Originally Posted by BangleBox_530d' date='Jun 16 2005, 12:41 AM

MB also build some cars in China, for the local market. No idea if it's a kit or full build though.

I think VW have a joint venture factory, or maybe VW are made under license there. China will become a huge market for cars.