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Old 05-12-2022, 03:39 PM
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My 2009 BMW 528i has developed a peculiar problem. I can't charge the battery fully using the underhood terminals, and a battery test at those terminals show only 200 CCA from a 900 CCA battery + only 20% charge. However when I test the battery at the trunk terminals, tester readings show 901 CCA and 99% charge. Battery is fairly new, only about 4 months old. All the terminals look clean without any corrosion. I did not register the new battery when I installed it, but I don't think that non-registration would result in such drastically different readings. Can someone tell me if the underhood cables are a direct run from the battery in the trunk or do they go through some kind of junction box?

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Analyzing the battery charge histogram would be incredibly helpful. If you do not register the battery, it has the potential of failing sooner than later. Have you performed a load test?
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Analyzing the battery charge histogram would be incredibly helpful. If you do not register the battery, it has the potential of failing sooner than later. Have you performed a load test?
The battery charge histogram is fairly steady around 14.0 to 14. 2 volts. So charging is not an issue. However when I let the car sit for 10 days, battery charge was low, and I couldn't fully charge it from the underhood terminals. So I connected the charger to the terminals in the trunk and achieved a 99% charge with 901 CCA. At the same time, testing at the underhood terminals shows 20% charge with only 199 CCA !!! High resistance as well.... Obviously there's a defect in the connection between the underhood terminals and battery trunk terminals... I am trying to narrow it down to where it could be... With a fully charged battery, car starts right up, and works well at night with lights and AC on....
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A charge histogram depicts the percentage of charge, not charge voltage (which has to do with alternator output). Load Test your battery, because there's going to be a difference in load between the front terminals and the battery terminals. What is your car actually not doing? Low charge notification or?
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Originally Posted by donpb
A charge histogram depicts the percentage of charge, not charge voltage (which has to do with alternator output). Load Test your battery, because there's going to be a difference in load between the front terminals and the battery terminals. What is your car actually not doing? Low charge notification or?
I don't have a histogram since I don't have any BMW tools. However at the trunk terminals my battery tester currently reads 899 CCA (battery rated at 900 CCA) at a resistance of 3.9 mohms, while at underhood terminals the same tester reads only 200 CCA at 17.9 mohms. Also when I tried to charge the battery from the underhood terminals, I wasn't able to, due to the high resistance. However the battery charged up within an hour from the trunk terminals. This is why I was asking if the cables going to the underhood terminals are a direct run from the trunk, or if they go through a junction block (which may be corroded). Currently I am not getting any messages on the speedo display, nor any check engine light. When I let the car sit unused for 10 days, a couple of weeks ago, I did get a low battery message, but once I charged the battery from the trunk terminals, it was all good; car runs and starts up without any issue. However I'm still getting a huge discrepancy between the engine compartment terminals and the trunk terminals and I will not be able to successfully trickle charge from the underhood location in the future, therefore I'm trying to solve this problem.
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There are a lot of things connected inline, you'll need to isolate. Load test the battery first.
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Checking the cable off the terminal would be my next move from what info you're replying back with especially without having the correct tools to troubleshoot a BMW (ISTA, INPA). Seems like you've narrowed it down at least a little to proceed to a next step. Has anything changed since you first saw the big discrepancy, If not then trace the cable to see if you see anything is wrong.

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This might be useful. You have a single cable from a junction point near the battery to the jump start terminal. The jump start terminal is between the battery and the starter. If the car is starting fine then I would be surprised if you have a cable issue through the jump start point.
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Seems to me if you can draw almost 200 amps at the under-hood terminal (with the battery tester) you have plenty of connectivity to do a trickle charger (which might only require 1-2 amps of current).

You're going to get very different readings with a full-load battery tester anywhere other than directly at the battery terminals.

What problem is the OP trying to solve here? If the charging current really isn't getting from the under-hood connection to the battery, a simple voltmeter test should confirm that there is less voltage at the battery than the under-hood terminal. Otherwise, he's chasing the wrong problem. If there IS a discrepancy in the voltage between the two, then it's just a matter of measuring across each junction / terminal / cable to find out which one has more than a small fraction of a volt (under charging conditions) across its length / boundaries.
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