Auto Express Quote "always replace run-flats with run-flats"
10-15-2006, 11:48 AM
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following:
530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
for Millions there is always a winner, I trust non RFT premium and UHP no matter what mags says 
track 'em and you will see.
track 'em and you will see.
10-15-2006, 12:25 PM
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My Ride: F11 535i M-Sport,, Silver, Black Leather, LED Adaptive headlights
Model Year: 2015
Engine: N55
1. Had RFT's as standard, hated them, bad ride, poor adhesion on bends in the wet, car bounced across bumps on bends in all conditions losing contact with the road.
2. Swapped to Goodyear GS D3's non RFT, immediate improvment in ride quality, improvment in wet grip, improvement it stability during cornering in all conditions.
3. Only drop in performance was a less sharp 'turn in'.
4. RTF's are only good for a short distance after a puncture, the higher your car in loaded the less they are good for. if you have a full oad BMW only advises up to 50mph for 20 miles on an RFT! What damn use is that on a cold wet night, where are you going to get the tyre replaced?
5. A skinny spare may look ugly, but at low speed it will take you huindreds of miles and work for days on end.
6. Don't believe everything you read in a mag!
2. Swapped to Goodyear GS D3's non RFT, immediate improvment in ride quality, improvment in wet grip, improvement it stability during cornering in all conditions.
3. Only drop in performance was a less sharp 'turn in'.
4. RTF's are only good for a short distance after a puncture, the higher your car in loaded the less they are good for. if you have a full oad BMW only advises up to 50mph for 20 miles on an RFT! What damn use is that on a cold wet night, where are you going to get the tyre replaced?
5. A skinny spare may look ugly, but at low speed it will take you huindreds of miles and work for days on end.
6. Don't believe everything you read in a mag!
10-15-2006, 12:40 PM
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My Ride: E60 530d Sport - Carbon Black, Black Dakota Leather, Media Pack (satnav, bluetooth, CD changer), heated font seats, through load
What's a skinny spare cost? Do you need to get tools too?
10-15-2006, 01:01 PM
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My Ride: F11 535i M-Sport,, Silver, Black Leather, LED Adaptive headlights
Model Year: 2015
Engine: N55
Originally Posted by BangleBox_530d' post='345152' date='Oct 15 2006, 09:40 PM
What's a skinny spare cost? Do you need to get tools too?
As an option when buying car they are about ?60, includes jack wheelbrace etc.
As an aftermarket spare around ?100.
10-15-2006, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='345150' date='Oct 15 2006, 11:25 PM
1. Had RFT's as standard, hated them, bad ride, poor adhesion on bends in the wet, car bounced across bumps on bends in all conditions losing contact with the road.
2. Swapped to Goodyear GS D3's non RFT, immediate improvment in ride quality, improvment in wet grip, improvement it stability during cornering in all conditions.
3. Only drop in performance was a less sharp 'turn in'.
4. RTF's are only good for a short distance after a puncture, the higher your car in loaded the less they are good for. if you have a full oad BMW only advises up to 50mph for 20 miles on an RFT! What damn use is that on a cold wet night, where are you going to get the tyre replaced?
5. A skinny spare may look ugly, but at low speed it will take you huindreds of miles and work for days on end.
6. Don't believe everything you read in a mag!
2. Swapped to Goodyear GS D3's non RFT, immediate improvment in ride quality, improvment in wet grip, improvement it stability during cornering in all conditions.
3. Only drop in performance was a less sharp 'turn in'.
4. RTF's are only good for a short distance after a puncture, the higher your car in loaded the less they are good for. if you have a full oad BMW only advises up to 50mph for 20 miles on an RFT! What damn use is that on a cold wet night, where are you going to get the tyre replaced?
5. A skinny spare may look ugly, but at low speed it will take you huindreds of miles and work for days on end.
6. Don't believe everything you read in a mag!
Refering to number 4 it happened to me. Car fully loaded (5 people+the boot full) and the tire resisted only for about 7-8 km and then it started to fall apart.
10-15-2006, 01:21 PM
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My Ride: F11 535i M-Sport,, Silver, Black Leather, LED Adaptive headlights
Model Year: 2015
Engine: N55
[quote name='07530d' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:41 PM' post='345026']
Concluded that non RFT's compared to RFT's performed worse, lost control in thw wet earlier and took longer to stop. Tested on a 3 series,
Bridgestone won - the testing was at Bridgestones ?30M euro testing ground
No chance that the test track surface fitted the performance charactersitics of the Bridgestone RFT's then?
Any resemblance to real road conditions was purely coincidental !
Concluded that non RFT's compared to RFT's performed worse, lost control in thw wet earlier and took longer to stop. Tested on a 3 series,
Bridgestone won - the testing was at Bridgestones ?30M euro testing ground
No chance that the test track surface fitted the performance charactersitics of the Bridgestone RFT's then?
Any resemblance to real road conditions was purely coincidental !
10-15-2006, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 525iSE' post='345206' date='Oct 16 2006, 08:41 AM
So if one was to switch from RFT to NON-RFT, whats a good brand or model to use, having 17" Rims? 18"? 19"? 20"?
10-15-2006, 10:16 PM
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My Ride: E60 530d Sport - Carbon Black, Black Dakota Leather, Media Pack (satnav, bluetooth, CD changer), heated font seats, through load
Good non-RFT tyres:
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Goodyear Eagle F1
Continental ContiSportContact 2
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Goodyear Eagle F1
Continental ContiSportContact 2
10-16-2006, 02:20 AM
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My Ride: 2006 535d MSport ; Retired at 110,000 miles
October 2010: 2010 535d MSport; Space Grey/Black Dakota, Adaptive Xenons, High Beam assistant, Prof. Nav, Voice Control,SAT, Adaptive Drive, Powered boot, Comfort Access, Climate Comfort W/Screen, Surround View, Side/Rear Sunblinds, Comfort Seats, HUD, Active Cruise, TV, Prof Loudspeaker, Night Vision, Lane Change warning, 4-Zone A/C, split rear seats, Speed Limit Display
I'm now on my second E60 , in both cases swapped the standard run flats for non run flat tyres.
In normal use, the car is vastly better - even my wife notices the difference from the passenger seat - far better ride, quieter etc etc.
I've had the current car on a couple of track days, one of which was wet, and the handling is exemplary.
Call me a cynic, but what is the possibility that having developed RFT, the tyre manufacturers make it financially advantageous for the car manufacturers to use RFT, leaving the end customer with a tyre that is a) 50-100% more expensive and b ) with a tyre life significantly less that non run flat tyres...win for the tyre company, win for the car company....lose for the end customer.
I've now tried Conti Sport Contact 2, Michelin Pilot Sport 2, Pirelli Pzero Rosso, all good, presonal preference for the Pirelli.
In normal use, the car is vastly better - even my wife notices the difference from the passenger seat - far better ride, quieter etc etc.
I've had the current car on a couple of track days, one of which was wet, and the handling is exemplary.
Call me a cynic, but what is the possibility that having developed RFT, the tyre manufacturers make it financially advantageous for the car manufacturers to use RFT, leaving the end customer with a tyre that is a) 50-100% more expensive and b ) with a tyre life significantly less that non run flat tyres...win for the tyre company, win for the car company....lose for the end customer.
I've now tried Conti Sport Contact 2, Michelin Pilot Sport 2, Pirelli Pzero Rosso, all good, presonal preference for the Pirelli.