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I've had comfort access for 3 days now and it is just too cool. I would get it again no question. Really though, BMW should make it standard and just increase the base cost by what ever their manufacturing cost is. If you ever get a chance to try it, you will agree it would be a huge sales point for the good guys!
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Originally Posted by stream' post='205486' date='Nov 30 2005, 09:38 PM
Comfort access is BMW's version of MB's keyless go--same basic functionality.
...and I don't like the way the new board SW combines 2 separate replies into 1, if made one shortly after the other...
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What happens when the fob battery dies? Will you still be able to open the door?
Better yet, can I still get an E60 with the regular key?
Better yet, can I still get an E60 with the regular key?
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Originally Posted by Bedford530i' post='205654' date='Dec 1 2005, 07:05 AM
What happens when the fob battery dies? Will you still be able to open the door?
There's a metal key stored in the fob.
Better yet, can I still get an E60 with the regular key?
No.
There's a metal key stored in the fob.
Better yet, can I still get an E60 with the regular key?
No.
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Originally Posted by CoolTones' post='205505' date='Dec 1 2005, 04:51 AM
Aye Carumba!
O.K....You guys have successfully roped me into a reply.
The start/stop button is what comes with an E60 these days. I *REALLY* don't see what the big deal is here. Push the button to start, push the button to stop.
I'm going to ask Lomag to set up a "Whiners Forum".
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O.K....You guys have successfully roped me into a reply.
The start/stop button is what comes with an E60 these days. I *REALLY* don't see what the big deal is here. Push the button to start, push the button to stop.
I'm going to ask Lomag to set up a "Whiners Forum".
Sheesh.
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1) All that have old 5:ers without this feature (or any feature for that matter) will claim that it is useless simply because they cannot have it.
2) The fob + button do add a new dimension to the car which is security. The fob cannot be copied as the regular key. The fob has built in DES encryption which makes it impossible even to manipulate the car to get it to start. The old 5:ers only have the built in electronic security of the engine start mechanism. This means that anyone who can get their hands on the regular key can make a copy to steal the car. The fob is not possible to copy. You will have to have the exact fob that came with the car for it to start.
3) The mumbo jumbo of "extra steps/work" to start a button-car vs an old 5:er is just so fun to read. Imagine the same story for active steering vs normal steering:-) Wow, don't you have active steering. I have since I don't have the stamina to turn the wheel. It is too much extra effort.
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The feature works in sports cars. There is something inherently cool about sitting in something low to the ground and pressing a red 'start' button. then hearing the engine burst into life.
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Aye Carumba!
O.K....You guys have successfully roped me into a reply.
The start/stop button is what comes with an E60 these days. I *REALLY* don't see what the big deal is here. Push the button to start, push the button to stop.
I'm going to ask Lomag to set up a "Whiners Forum".
Sheesh.![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
O.K....You guys have successfully roped me into a reply.
The start/stop button is what comes with an E60 these days. I *REALLY* don't see what the big deal is here. Push the button to start, push the button to stop.
I'm going to ask Lomag to set up a "Whiners Forum".
Sheesh.
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1) All that have old 5:ers without this feature (or any feature for that matter) will claim that it is useless simply because they cannot have it.
2) The fob + button do add a new dimension to the car which is security. The fob cannot be copied as the regular key. The fob has built in DES encryption which makes it impossible even to manipulate the car to get it to start. The old 5:ers only have the built in electronic security of the engine start mechanism. This means that anyone who can get their hands on the regular key can make a copy to steal the car. The fob is not possible to copy. You will have to have the exact fob that came with the car for it to start.
3) The mumbo jumbo of "extra steps/work" to start a button-car vs an old 5:er is just so fun to read. Imagine the same story for active steering vs normal steering:-) Wow, don't you have active steering. I have since I don't have the stamina to turn the wheel. It is too much extra effort.
Ciao!
/Knubblo
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='205439' date='Nov 30 2005, 06:50 PM
das, in case you weren't aware, even those of us without the start/stop button only have to turn the key momentarily to activate the start sequence. There's no need to "hold" the key in the start postition for the car to start. Basically, our key is a start/stop button, it's just built into the key cylinder assembly.
Clearly, without comfort access, the independent start/stop button adds a step that is unecessary..
Clearly, without comfort access, the independent start/stop button adds a step that is unecessary..
Which brings up a question about the start/stop button on a manual tranny car - do you have to hold the button down to start it? Any '06 manual drivers out there care to respond?
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Originally Posted by katheikia' post='205767' date='Dec 1 2005, 03:11 PM
2) The fob + button do add a new dimension to the car which is security. The fob cannot be copied as the regular key. The fob has built in DES encryption which makes it impossible even to manipulate the car to get it to start. The old 5:ers only have the built in electronic security of the engine start mechanism. This means that anyone who can get their hands on the regular key can make a copy to steal the car. The fob is not possible to copy. You will have to have the exact fob that came with the car for it to start.
/Knubblo
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