545i Vs 535d
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hi guys!
i need real 545i performance data comparison between manual gearbox, steptronic and smg.
someone tells going faster than me with a 535d beacause in his opinion steptronic is faster than smg.
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535d :thumbsdown:
i need real 545i performance data comparison between manual gearbox, steptronic and smg.
someone tells going faster than me with a 535d beacause in his opinion steptronic is faster than smg.
thank you very much
alex
535d :thumbsdown:
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I'd agree that Steptronic is slightly quicker than SMG, but only a very marginal difference.
As for performance differences, a 545i would be quicker than a 535D over most stats with the possible exception of say 30-50 or 50-70, where the 535D's higher torque would perhaps give the edge, but 0-60 & 0-100 would be quicker in the 545i.
Now a DMS 535D is a different kettle of fish & my money would go on the 535D, not by much but possibly enough to see daylight between the 2 cars.
Worth bearing in mind that in the UK it's reckoned that more 535D's have been re-mapped (DMS & the like) than have not been re-mapped, so most are putting out between 330 & 340BHP with torque over 680nm (500lbsft)
As for performance differences, a 545i would be quicker than a 535D over most stats with the possible exception of say 30-50 or 50-70, where the 535D's higher torque would perhaps give the edge, but 0-60 & 0-100 would be quicker in the 545i.
Now a DMS 535D is a different kettle of fish & my money would go on the 535D, not by much but possibly enough to see daylight between the 2 cars.
Worth bearing in mind that in the UK it's reckoned that more 535D's have been re-mapped (DMS & the like) than have not been re-mapped, so most are putting out between 330 & 340BHP with torque over 680nm (500lbsft)
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Originally Posted by w8pmc' post='261163' date='Mar 28 2006, 10:59 AM
I'd agree that Steptronic is slightly quicker than SMG, but only a very marginal difference.
As for performance differences, a 545i would be quicker than a 535D over most stats with the possible exception of say 30-50 or 50-70, where the 535D's higher torque would perhaps give the edge, but 0-60 & 0-100 would be quicker in the 545i.
Now a DMS 535D is a different kettle of fish & my money would go on the 535D, not by much but possibly enough to see daylight between the 2 cars.
As for performance differences, a 545i would be quicker than a 535D over most stats with the possible exception of say 30-50 or 50-70, where the 535D's higher torque would perhaps give the edge, but 0-60 & 0-100 would be quicker in the 545i.
Now a DMS 535D is a different kettle of fish & my money would go on the 535D, not by much but possibly enough to see daylight between the 2 cars.
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='261164' date='Mar 28 2006, 06:00 AM
well then compare the DMS 545i (371bhp/520nm) with the DMS 535d
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Originally Posted by w8pmc' post='261165' date='Mar 28 2006, 11:03 AM
It's all about the torque Looking at far more torque in the 535D so evens things up a little.
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='261151' date='Mar 28 2006, 12:44 PM
hi guys!
i need real 545i performance data comparison between manual gearbox, steptronic and smg.
someone tells going faster than me with a 535d beacause in his opinion steptronic is faster than smg.
thank you very much
alex
535d :thumbsdown:
i need real 545i performance data comparison between manual gearbox, steptronic and smg.
someone tells going faster than me with a 535d beacause in his opinion steptronic is faster than smg.
thank you very much
alex
535d :thumbsdown:
The 545 is quicker, all the way. Saw a circuit test on top gear some time ago between the two cars and the 535 had its ass whipped. Some people think their 535 is the fastes car in the world like the guy who wanted to race my M3 with his 535. After the race he almost started crying while admitting the superiority of the 3.2 non turbo engine.
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My Ride: (E60) 535D M-Sport (DMS)
Originally Posted by 700700' post='261167' date='Mar 28 2006, 06:04 AM
id say its all about torque distribution over the rev band... and the dms 545i revs to 7100rpm
The 535D is far from being the fastest car on the planet & i'd never suggest it was however i answered the OP's question fully & added a scenario.
The diesel vs petrol debate will run for years & years & each is entitled to their opinion & I gave mine based on fact & findings.
Ps. the 545i is not available in the UK & i'm not aware of a 550i re-map in the UK, however their may well be one somewhere.
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My Ride: (E60) 535D M-Sport (DMS)
Originally Posted by Georgos' post='261171' date='Mar 28 2006, 06:07 AM
The 545 is quicker, all the way. Saw a circuit test on top gear some time ago between the two cars and the 535 had its ass whipped. Some people think their 535 is the fastes car in the world like the guy who wanted to race my M3 with his 535. After the race he almost started crying while admitting the superiority of the 3.2 non turbo engine.
We have the 540i & the 550i with the 0-60 times for these cars being 6.3 for the 540 (the same as a standard 535D) & 5.6 for the 550i (0.1 sec more than a DMS 535D). So safe to say the difference between standard 545i & standard 535D is hardly going to be a country mile & whichever way you look at the cars, the torque from the 535D in standard form is higher than an M5 so much higher than 540i, 545i & 550i.
I cetainly don't think the 535D is the fastest or best car in the world & that's having traded into a 535D from a car MUCH faster than an E60 M5, but let's be sensible when comparing the 535D with it's petrol equivalents.
Agreed that an M3 will show a standard 535D a clean pair of heels & your competitor was a little stupid to think otherwise, however i'd happily take such a race/chance, as i know my car has a fighting chance although i believe the M3 would still have the edge but it's only a slight edge. On a track, the M3 would of course win by a reasonable margin.
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Originally Posted by w8pmc' post='261178' date='Mar 28 2006, 11:23 AM
I doubt you saw a 545i vs 535D on Top gear, as the 545i is not available in the UK & never has been so why would a UK TV show test the car. I watch Top Gear religiously & can't recall such a test, although i do recall the 535D being tested a while back.
.. they used to be for sale in the uk.
as for 550i .. wetterauer can chip it to 406bhp/560nm