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Old 07-27-2008, 04:35 PM
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Dear e60 forum,

What is the best DEEP SHINE, and long lasting car wax ,(Lasting about 1+ year), can I get for my silver e60 BMW? Some are saying Zaino is the best, but I do not know too much about it, has anyone every use it before, and if so, how did you like it? Was it a deep long lasting shine? And where is the best place to purchase it at, and about how much does it cost?


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presley,

I would say 1 year is a long time not many if any waxes/sealant last that long in my experience but one that is very good and does last long would be Einszett Glanz Wax.

I would say depending on your environment it would last 3-5 months. I have heard customers tell me with proper washing and care it has lasted them 6 months.

Here are two links to the looks of Einszett Glanz after a full exterior detail:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=59032
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=58880

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If you looking for long lasting wax, Collinite must be the one
One application can last 8-10mths easily.
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1 year is really just too much to ask out of any carnuba based wax or sealant type wax (zaino). Unless the car is garaged and only driven a few times a week. Mother nature and you washing your car will usually take its toll on even the longest lasting wax within 4 months to 6 months at the longest. Enviroment and your washing techiniques/schedule has a huge effect on any wax.

Answer to your question has many answers. Sealants are going to give you more of a mirror type finish (usually last the longest in most cases). Carnauba Wax is going to give you more of that wet, deep, warm, candy coated look to the car.

I've used Zaino in the past and its a solid product though alot of steps and can be confusing if your not willing to educated yourself on the procedures and can get a little pricey if you start buying all the products. I'd say Zaino last a good 3 to 4 months on a daily driver. Klasse is another one with there AIO and SG products. Last around 3 to 4 months also on a daily driver.

Carnauba Wax I would say Collinite 476 or 915 Marque D'Elegance are two of your longest products on the market. Good 3 to 5 months. Really beads excellent and helps keep rain spots of the finish. It also does an excellent job and keeping dust off the car. Finish Kare's Pink Wax and 1000P are excellent choices also. ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax is an excellent product with a good life to it also and will give you one hell of good shine, depth, show car look. Friend and I applied it to his car and WOW (going to buy some ASAP here). Really is one of the best waxes I've used and for $20 I don't think there is anything better out there for the $ to end result ratio. It really does everything top notch and I'd highly recommend giving it a shot.

Bottom line in all this is your going to have to take a few hours one day and prep the car properly and put a good wax on. I really won't expect much more then three months on a daily driver in most parts of the country. Every three months I would apply a coat of wax. With todays products it only takes about 30 mins. to wax 5 series. Personally I like Carnauba based waxes over Sealants. Many people who use Sealants put Carnauba wax on top of it for the look that it gives you. Follow up each wax with a nice detailer spray to help prolong your wax. Something like Mequires Quick Detailer or Finish Kare 425.
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So much info. Now how do you go applying it? Is it for a novice like me or a professional shop?
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Originally Posted by skylolow' post='634584' date='Jul 28 2008, 08:15 PM
1 year is really just too much to ask out of any carnuba based wax or sealant type wax (zaino). Unless the car is garaged and only driven a few times a week. Mother nature and you washing your car will usually take its toll on even the longest lasting wax within 4 months to 6 months at the longest. Enviroment and your washing techiniques/schedule has a huge effect on any wax.

Answer to your question has many answers. Sealants are going to give you more of a mirror type finish (usually last the longest in most cases). Carnauba Wax is going to give you more of that wet, deep, warm, candy coated look to the car.

I've used Zaino in the past and its a solid product though alot of steps and can be confusing if your not willing to educated yourself on the procedures and can get a little pricey if you start buying all the products. I'd say Zaino last a good 3 to 4 months on a daily driver. Klasse is another one with there AIO and SG products. Last around 3 to 4 months also on a daily driver.

Carnauba Wax I would say Collinite 476 or 915 Marque D'Elegance are two of your longest products on the market. Good 3 to 5 months. Really beads excellent and helps keep rain spots of the finish. It also does an excellent job and keeping dust off the car. Finish Kare's Pink Wax and 1000P are excellent choices also. ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax is an excellent product with a good life to it also and will give you one hell of good shine, depth, show car look. Friend and I applied it to his car and WOW (going to buy some ASAP here). Really is one of the best waxes I've used and for $20 I don't think there is anything better out there for the $ to end result ratio. It really does everything top notch and I'd highly recommend giving it a shot.

Bottom line in all this is your going to have to take a few hours one day and prep the car properly and put a good wax on. I really won't expect much more then three months on a daily driver in most parts of the country. Every three months I would apply a coat of wax. With todays products it only takes about 30 mins. to wax 5 series. Personally I like Carnauba based waxes over Sealants. Many people who use Sealants put Carnauba wax on top of it for the look that it gives you. Follow up each wax with a nice detailer spray to help prolong your wax. Something like Mequires Quick Detailer or Finish Kare 425.

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hey skylolow,


Thank you for answering my question on the best wax for my BMW. You know before the e60 forum I never heard of Zaino, but I like what the members had to say about it, and how it came out on their BMW's.

Today, I emailed the Zaino company and got a great answer from a Sal Zaino, along with customer testimonials, which led me to do some www research and it looks real good, but the only thing with all its necessary steps before and applying it, and after words, one almost has to be a MIT Graduate to learn how to unsterstand its concept, and when to apply it properly! (LOL),,,,(SEE BELOW). I think I am going to try that ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax that you spoke highly of before I buy the Zanio br0thers wax, and where is the best place with Best lowest Price, where can I buy it online at? Can you sent me a link so I can order it?


Oh the wax should last a long while, because my BMW says garaged 24/7 when not in use, and I only drive it maybe twice a week on dates, and on dry days around town. My 2006 Sonata is my everyday work car.

Thanks in advance!!


Eddie Presley

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Dear Eddie,

I enjoyed seeing pictures you sent of your new BMW, and you have a nice looking M5, and Thank You for your interest in Zaino Show Car Polish Products for your BMW....

Please read below and then Call me... at 732-833-8800

Best time to reach me is M -F between 8:30 & 11:30 AM est.

For your above scenario..

Bare minimum to purchase is Z-AIO, Z-5, Z-6 and if you wash the car
yourself also get Z-7...

Use them in the same order...



But for the Ultimate in paint protection and an incredible Show Car
finish on your above scenario.
I recommend purchasing the Zaino Bros' Total Protection Show Car Kit..

Code# ZKIT-1 + Z-AIO

You can buy Zaino online at http://www.zainobros.com on our new
E-commerce

site, or call to order on THE TOLL FREE NUMBER 888-999-9870, the tech
number is still the same 732-833-8800. We are pleased at Zaino to
offer
this to our customers to make your purchase even easier.


Enclosed is a more detailed version of my Application Tips & Tricks.
Please read thoroughly. It contains some really great info.....


ZAINO APPLICATION
TIPS


1. Because Zaino Show Car Polish is optically perfect (99.9%) The
optimum results are achieved by using over wax free paint.

2. If you are looking for the ultimate paint surface preparation. Use
Zaino Z-18 ClayBar first or skip to Step 3.

Zaino Z-18 ClayBay was designed to remove airborne contaminants,
paint overspray, water spots, rail dust, industrial fallout, diesel
fuel
& catalytic converter residue and any other bonded surface
contaminants
from paint. All cars even brand new factory paint has airborne
contaminants... Here's the deal. The non-abrasive Z-18 ClayBar will
remove
any surface contaminants from the paint finish and not hurt the
clear-coat. The ClayBar will get that paint finish smooth as glass.
Now
remember waterspots, bird droppings and bug guts if left on the
paint finish for any length of time. Will etch into the paint finish.
The ClayBar will also remove any store bought waxes....

I recommend you use my car wash (Z-7) as a lubricant for the ClayBar.
Just make sure to keep the surface area lubricated while using the
ClayBar.
Use 1/2 capful of Z-7 Car Wash to 12 ounces of water. I use a spray
bottle
for the mix. Shake it up and spray the area to be Clayed. Just make
sure
to keep the surface area lubricated while using the ClayBar.

3. I would definitely recommend you remove the wax buildup on your
paint. Just use Liquid Dawn(hand dishwashing liquid) as a car wash. It

has a high alkaline content which cuts right thru carnauba wax,
paraffin, silicone oils, etc. This will get your paint finish squeeky
clean and wax free.

I don't advise making a habit of washing your car with Dawn. But for
this scenario it's fine. High alkaline products like Dawn are tough on

polishes. It will never harm the paint finish though. A car wash is
made
specifically to clean without removing durable polishes. ALSO, Make
sure
you remove any water spots, before you apply my products. Because
Zaino
has no abrasives or harsh solvents it will not remove water spots or
stains. Z-18 ClayBar is great for removing any paint surface
contaminants.
Re-wash the entire vehicle with Z-7 Car Wash immediately after the
ClayBar
Cleaning Process.

4. The basic products you will need are ZFX or the new Z-AIO, Z-2,
Z-5(optional, but highly
recommended for swirls and especially on darker colors), Z-6 and Z-7.
If you are going to use the NEW ZFX flash cure system, then skip step
5 and read the ZFX instructions below..

5. Start with Z-AIO as per directions. Remove Z-AIO and apply Z-5 or
Z-2
Z-5 is the Hot ticket for a swirl free, flawless
paint finish. Usually one to two coats will accomplish that.

6. Let Z-5 or Z-2 polish dry at least one hour. Please NOTE: Zaino
Show
Car Polish works best at 60 degrees or higher. However, it can be
applied down to temperatures of 45 degrees. It just will take much,
much
longer to dry. As much as two to three hours drying time is required
if
the temperature is 50 degrees or below. Also, If the humidity is high.

Longer drying time is necessary. Humidity is a killer on the drying
time
of Z-2 or Z-5. The moisture in the air hinders drying
time up to four times longer than normal. Sorry, but I can't help
this.
When you try to remove Z-2 or Z-5 when it is still wet. All you're
accomplishing is moving it around. Kinda like reapplying it. Also you
need to use a LARGE White 100% Bath size towel (please refer to my
Tips
& Tricks sheet on my web site for the proper towels to use) to remove
Z-2 or Z-5. Smaller towels will not work efficiently.

To test if Z-2 or Z-5 is dry and ready to be removed. Wipe your finger

on a hazed section. It should immediately come off and leave a crytal
clear finish. If it smears, it is still wet. You can leave Z-2 or Z-5
on
for hours or overnight if you desire. When it is not humid Z-2 will
take
anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to dry. Depending on how heavy you
applied it. I have applied Z-2 in the Arizona sun and it dried in
approx. 3 to 5 minutes. I have also applied it in 38 degree
temperature
and it took about 2 to 3 hours to dry. Be patient. It's worth it.
Different situations affect drying times. Also, remember you have Z-1
and Z-5 both on the car. That is two products that have to dry at one
time. Takes longer. Z-2 or Z-5 does not contain any oils and once it's

dry will never ever look smeary or feel greasy. If you remove Z-2 or
Z-5
before it is thoroughly dry and get any smears. Just wipe down the car

with a damp cotton towel. This will remove any smears. Don't use Z-6
until you wipe the car down. If you'd like call me and I'll help you
out
with more info!

7. After removal of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5. You should wait 24 hours if the
outside temperature is under 70 degrees and 6 hours if over 70
degrees,
before applying the next coat of Z-5 or Z-2.

8. Use Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray as per directions, between each and
every coat of Z-5 or Z-2. It really helps give a three dimensional
look.
It's antistatic properties will reduce dust and dirt pickup by 60%.
Z-6
can be used immediately after removing Z-2 or Z-5 or right before
applying the next coat of Z-2 or Z-5. Most of my customers prefer to
use
Z-6 both, before and after Z-2 or Z-5 for that extra gloss boost.

9. You can switch to Z-2 as soon as you are happy with the way the
paint
finish looks. Example, no more swirls, scratches etc. It's up to you.
Z-2 has higher optical properties than Z-5. You can go from Z-2 to Z-5

and then back to Z-2 as often as you want. Z-2 and Z-5 are 100%
compatible and interchangeable. You should always end with Z-2 as the
last coat because of its higher optics.

10. The number of coats of Z-2 or Z-5 is up to you. When you reach the

level of enhancement you like, normal maintenance with Z-7 Car Wash
and
Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray is all that's necessary. Naturally apply a
coat of Z-2 or Z-5 whenever you feel it is required.

NOTE: One application of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5 will outlast anything in the

industry and is all you'll ever need for an average vehicle. However,
Multiple coats will achieve an even deeper, wetter-looking, ultra high

gloss. Plus higher paint protection. It's up to you....You be the
judge...

ALWAYS use only 100% Cotton towels. They must be Made in USA. Brand
name
(Cannon or Fieldcrest) large white bath size towels. See my web site,
for the real truth on cotton towels and which ones to use.


ZFX? Instructions

When used as directed, Zaino Bros' ZFX? Show Car Polish accelerator
enables Zaino Show Car Polish to cure instantly and increases
durability. This exclusive product allows you to create a ?Show Car
Finish? in a day and gives your car months of lasting protection.

This kit contains a 2ml vial of ZFX? Show Car Polish accelerator mix
and
four mixing bottles. The vial contains enough ZFX? to prepare 16
ounces
of polish.

Pour one to two ounces of Show Car Polish (Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5) into a 2
ounce ZFX mixing bottle. For each ounce of polish, add 4 to 5 drops
of
ZFX? (no more than 10 drops for two full ounces), screw the cap back
on,
and shake vigorously for 60 to 90 seconds.

ZFX? enabled polish must be applied to a clean car. Follow these easy

steps:

1. Apply Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFX? with a 100% terry
cloth
applicator. Use the polish sparingly. A small amount goes a long
way,
and you will be applying multiple coats.
2. Squirt a dime size dab of polish on your applicator and rub it into

your paint using back and forth hand motions.
3. Allow the polish the haze (dry) for 30 minutes.
4. Buff off the Show Car Polish residue with a high quality, 100%
cotton
detailing towel.


You're now ready to apply your next coat of Zaino Show Car Polish
enabled with ZFX?. There's no need to wait. Simply follow steps 1
through 4 again. Use a fresh buffing towel with each coat. Apply no
more than three coats of Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFX? in a
24
hour period. fro optimum results use enable ZFX withing 6 hours of
mixing

When you are finished polishing, wash mixing bottle inside and out
with
a heavy concentration of liquid dishwashing detergen and rinse
thoroughlyt. The ZFX? mixing bottles cannot be reused if the polish
remains in the bottle for more than 12 hours. After 12 hours, it is
not
possible to remove the ZFX? accelerator from the mixing bottles.
Throw
the mixing bottle and any unused polish contents away after 12 hours.

Call me and I'll give you some more tips on your specific situation.




Thank You,
Sal Zaino
(732)833-8800
http://www.zainostore.com


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Old 07-28-2008, 05:11 PM
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Wow Zaino gave you quite the write up there. They make a great product but you got to be quite patient in learning how to do it. To me there is alot of other products out there that are much easier to use and yield excellent results. I guess I kind of lost patience with the 50 steps of Zaino.

You can order it right from clearkote.net otherwise type it in Yahoo and take your pick of companys. They all sell it for about the same so just find the best shipping price. Also I've heard there Vanilla Moose Hand Glaze is excellent to put on before the Wax to give your car even more depth, luster, and shine. Also helps hide defects in the paint.

I think you'll be very pleased with the results. I honestly don't think I've seen anything better for the price vs end results.
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