m sport package?
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My Ride: 545i Mystic Blue/Black Leather Type 124 Wheels
Originally Posted by ghassane' date='Mar 15 2005, 09:13 PM
Hi E60Speed,
Can you please post some more pics of your car, it looks amazing!
Can you please post some more pics of your car, it looks amazing!
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That was not my car it was a 535d being used as a demo at a UK launch of the new E90 3 Series
Here is another one of it
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Mar 16 2005, 06:08 AM
Really,? we do get our cars cheaper than anywhere else.
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your 545 starts at $55,800.
in sweden the 545 starts at 519,000 SEK.
todays exachange rate is 6.79 sek to the dollar (www.xe.net)
soooo.....
you pay $55,800.
we pay $76,435 for the same car.
now im sure its not as black and white as that - our price includes our 25% (yeah, you read right, 25%) sales tax, and is probably not equipped the same as yours.
and besides, its not exactly free to insure a car like that (yeah, we insure our cars, not the drivers)
but i bet with all the variables factored out - we still pay a hefty sum more to own a bmw.
so quit your crying - its only fair that we get the better looking cars! (j/k)
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My Ride: 2005 545i (SMG)
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we pay $76,435 for the same car
Go Socialism!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Mar 15 2005, 11:08 PM
OK here is my theory.? BMWNA is BMW AG's biggest customer.? BMWNA generates a huge volume of business and in return gets the cheapest BMWs on the planet.? They pass these savings on to the dealer network an some of it trickles down to us.? Really,? we do get our cars cheaper than anywhere else.
Now in order to manage this volume from a production stand point,? they introduce the package concept.? A handful of colors, only three trims and two interior colors.? Hence no BMW individual,? no choosing your options and no M sport package unless they are at premium that BMWNA doesn't feel is worthwhile marketing.? Anyone with the dosh can surely buy it in Europe and ship it over.? Then have your local bodyshop install it.
Now in order to manage this volume from a production stand point,? they introduce the package concept.? A handful of colors, only three trims and two interior colors.? Hence no BMW individual,? no choosing your options and no M sport package unless they are at premium that BMWNA doesn't feel is worthwhile marketing.? Anyone with the dosh can surely buy it in Europe and ship it over.? Then have your local bodyshop install it.
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They want us chomping at the bit for it....and it's working...
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Originally Posted by subterFUSE' date='Mar 16 2005, 03:22 PM
we pay $76,435 for the same car
Go Socialism!!!!!
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hows that - socialism in a sentence. a run on sentence, but a sentence none the less.
I was just looking at numbers today, and for a moderately equipped (read: not everything) 545, the government will be taxing me 11,400SEK/month (almost 1700USD). Tell me its better elsewhere... give me faith in the rest of society.
Originally Posted by djones4
We always get screwed in the US? , We will be lucky to ever even see the M5
sorry - it shouldnt be funny - but im a little depressed myself - wondering if i really can afford this....
edit: you arent the only one getting screwed...
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My Ride: 535d Eccelsa, 05 2005 (built 12-04), sapphireblack, beige dakota leather, electric seats, poplar wood trim, sport suspension, 124 style 18" alloys, differentiated f/r runflat tyres, steptronic, adaptive light control, bi-xenon, BMW PRO nav, cd, cd changer, electric-foldable and automatic antidazzle rear mirrors, automatic antidazzle internal rear mirror, adjustable central armrest, BT, Hifi Professional LOGIC7 , extended functions aircon, full lighting package, green comfort fascia on windshield, PDC park distance control, voice control, CPT9000 car phone, BMW Assist, BMW On-line, BMW Tracking, alarm system, programmable remote controls.
Originally Posted by subterFUSE' date='Mar 16 2005, 02:22 PM
we pay $76,435 for the same car
Go Socialism!!!!!
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My Ride: 535d Eccelsa, 05 2005 (built 12-04), sapphireblack, beige dakota leather, electric seats, poplar wood trim, sport suspension, 124 style 18" alloys, differentiated f/r runflat tyres, steptronic, adaptive light control, bi-xenon, BMW PRO nav, cd, cd changer, electric-foldable and automatic antidazzle rear mirrors, automatic antidazzle internal rear mirror, adjustable central armrest, BT, Hifi Professional LOGIC7 , extended functions aircon, full lighting package, green comfort fascia on windshield, PDC park distance control, voice control, CPT9000 car phone, BMW Assist, BMW On-line, BMW Tracking, alarm system, programmable remote controls.
Originally Posted by narf' date='Mar 16 2005, 05:25 PM
[quote name='subterFUSE' date='Mar 16 2005, 03:22 PM']
Go Socialism!!!!!
we pay $76,435 for the same car
Go Socialism!!!!!
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hows that - socialism in a sentence. a run on sentence, but a sentence none the less.
Narf, we in Europe have a tendency to remember the burdens our government put on us only when we have to pay our taxes or when we compare prices of our goods to american prices! But rarely anybody recalls our taxes when we go to first class hospitals, totally free of charge, when our sons go to the school and to the University totally free or paying few hundred euros per year, when our municipality take care of our children in the kindergartner free of charge.
I?ll be happy to pay less taxes but my personal complain is not about the amount of taxes I pay (and for me is quite a substantial amount of money), instead I complain about the waste of money my government (and several others) is doing with my money!
And yes, yankees can buy cars and bikes and electronics and gasoline much cheaper than us but we cannot compare US with small Sweden or overcrowded Italy. We are in a different world, maybe better maybe not, but I personally will have a lot of problems in adapting to the american way of life. I prefer to go over there just for holidays, as I usually do.
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Don't need socialism, doesn't work.
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at ? 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.
have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at ? 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.
have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
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Originally Posted by Lucky' date='Mar 16 2005, 07:12 PM
Narf, we in Europe have a tendency to remember the burdens our government put on us only when we have to pay our taxes or when we compare prices of our goods to american prices! But rarely anybody recalls our taxes when we go to first class hospitals, totally free of charge, when our sons go to the school and to the University totally free or paying few hundred euros per year, when our municipality take care of our children in the kindergartner free of charge.
I?ll be happy to pay less taxes but my personal complain is not about the amount of taxes I pay (and for me is quite a substantial amount of money), instead I complain about the waste of money my government (and several others) is doing with my money!
And yes, yankees can buy cars and bikes and electronics and gasoline much cheaper than us but we cannot compare US with small Sweden or overcrowded Italy. We are in a different world, maybe better maybe not, but I personally will have a lot of problems in adapting to the american way of life. I prefer to go over there just for holidays, as I usually do.
I?ll be happy to pay less taxes but my personal complain is not about the amount of taxes I pay (and for me is quite a substantial amount of money), instead I complain about the waste of money my government (and several others) is doing with my money!
And yes, yankees can buy cars and bikes and electronics and gasoline much cheaper than us but we cannot compare US with small Sweden or overcrowded Italy. We are in a different world, maybe better maybe not, but I personally will have a lot of problems in adapting to the american way of life. I prefer to go over there just for holidays, as I usually do.
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education should be free for everyone - and those who bother to study hard, get good jobs, make lots of cash, shouldnt be punished. sure the system in the US isnt exactly the ideal one, but in my opinion, its much better than our fundamentally flawed socialist regime.
im moving the second i get the chance.
and im bringing my m-sports kit with me!
back to cars....
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My Ride: 535d Eccelsa, 05 2005 (built 12-04), sapphireblack, beige dakota leather, electric seats, poplar wood trim, sport suspension, 124 style 18" alloys, differentiated f/r runflat tyres, steptronic, adaptive light control, bi-xenon, BMW PRO nav, cd, cd changer, electric-foldable and automatic antidazzle rear mirrors, automatic antidazzle internal rear mirror, adjustable central armrest, BT, Hifi Professional LOGIC7 , extended functions aircon, full lighting package, green comfort fascia on windshield, PDC park distance control, voice control, CPT9000 car phone, BMW Assist, BMW On-line, BMW Tracking, alarm system, programmable remote controls.
Originally Posted by garehaan' date='Mar 16 2005, 06:22 PM
Don't need socialism, doesn't work.
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at ? 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.
have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at ? 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.
have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
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The spec is top of the range, with almost everything included: Dakota leather, active steering, 18" alloys, professional nav, cd changer, PDC, electric mirrors, sport suspension, adaptive lights, bi-xenon, full electric seats and electric steering wheel.
So, it seems you in Holland pay at least 25% more than we do! Seems too big a difference inside the EU. WHy don?t you buy cars in Germany, then?