A couple of questions before I pull the trigger
02-20-2005, 12:15 PM
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they will give you the latest s/w which works for your car when it is in for service.
they are obliged to give you the latest when an internal bulletin is published.
on the other hand, i have a feeling that the dealer is somewhat hesitant to do it, cause each time when they upload s/w there might exist unknown outcome.
took them 3 days to do mine last time cause they cannot get bmw assist to work.
either because of its complexity or the existance of bugs, which explains some s/w update takes significantly longer than others.
the rule of 'if it does not cause a problem don't fix it' applies.
they are obliged to give you the latest when an internal bulletin is published.
on the other hand, i have a feeling that the dealer is somewhat hesitant to do it, cause each time when they upload s/w there might exist unknown outcome.
took them 3 days to do mine last time cause they cannot get bmw assist to work.
either because of its complexity or the existance of bugs, which explains some s/w update takes significantly longer than others.
the rule of 'if it does not cause a problem don't fix it' applies.
02-20-2005, 05:24 PM
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I just got back from a test drive and on the door sill it said it was a June/04 production date. Is this far enough along to guarantee bluetooth?
My salesman was trying to tell me no BMW's have bluetooth... and then went on saying CDMA and bluetooth don't work together. (Which confirmed my suspicion he has no idea what he's talking about). Is there a way to find out the software version within the car itself through iDrive?
My salesman was trying to tell me no BMW's have bluetooth... and then went on saying CDMA and bluetooth don't work together. (Which confirmed my suspicion he has no idea what he's talking about). Is there a way to find out the software version within the car itself through iDrive?
02-20-2005, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dean' date='Feb 20 2005, 09:24 PM
I just got back from a test drive and on the door sill it said it was a June/04 production date.? Is this far enough along to guarantee bluetooth?
My salesman was trying to tell me no BMW's have bluetooth... and then went on saying CDMA and bluetooth don't work together.? (Which confirmed my suspicion he has no idea what he's talking about).? Is there a way to find out the software version within the car itself through iDrive?
My salesman was trying to tell me no BMW's have bluetooth... and then went on saying CDMA and bluetooth don't work together.? (Which confirmed my suspicion he has no idea what he's talking about).? Is there a way to find out the software version within the car itself through iDrive?
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Bell is on CDMA service and they do not have any Bluetooth enabled phones.
You would have to switch to Rogers/Fido or perhaps Telus.
Then of course the 545I would also have to support Bluetooth and from what I hear late July/August 2004 production cars started to have bluetooth.
02-20-2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gabman' date='Feb 20 2005, 07:38 PM
Dean, the salesman was correct in so far as if your Cell phone service is with Bell,
Bell is on CDMA service and they do not have any Bluetooth enabled? phones.
You would have to switch to Rogers/Fido or perhaps Telus.
Then of course the 545I would also have to support Bluetooth and from what I hear late July/August 2004 production cars started to have bluetooth.
Bell is on CDMA service and they do not have any Bluetooth enabled? phones.
You would have to switch to Rogers/Fido or perhaps Telus.
Then of course the 545I would also have to support Bluetooth and from what I hear late July/August 2004 production cars started to have bluetooth.
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He had no idea what cell phone I had as I didn't say. The point he was trying to get across was that bluetooth couldn't work on CDMA...
02-20-2005, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dean' date='Feb 20 2005, 10:15 PM
[quote name='gabman' date='Feb 20 2005, 07:38 PM']Dean, the salesman was correct in so far as if your Cell phone service is with Bell,
Bell is on CDMA service and they do not have any Bluetooth enabled? phones.
You would have to switch to Rogers/Fido or perhaps Telus.
Then of course the 545I would also have to support Bluetooth and from what I hear late July/August 2004 production cars started to have bluetooth.
Bell is on CDMA service and they do not have any Bluetooth enabled? phones.
You would have to switch to Rogers/Fido or perhaps Telus.
Then of course the 545I would also have to support Bluetooth and from what I hear late July/August 2004 production cars started to have bluetooth.
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He had no idea what cell phone I had as I didn't say. The point he was trying to get across was that bluetooth couldn't work on CDMA...
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[/quote]I have also heard that Bluetooth does not work on CDMA although I have read about a couple of CDMA Cell Phones that have Bluetooth? From what I am reading on this forum about bluetooth it would seem that the cell phone must have a smart card and CDMA phones do not have smart cards. So if anyone out there in the know can confirm that Cell Phones using CDMA technology are Bluetooth compatible, would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks
02-20-2005, 08:11 PM
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bluetooth and CDMA are two different technologies.
www.bluetooth.com
so far only GSM (fido/rogers) phones have bluetooth capabilities. i think this is because over whelming cell phones in the world are GSM, or GSM has the rights with bluetooth, either way this is going to change.
though very limited, bluetooth enabled CDMA phones will be coming to the market, but be aware that they are very limited.
under BT, the idea is as long as they are paired it should work. on the other hand since BMW did not test ( or will not test in the future) CDMA / BT phones, there is a chance it will not work or cannot function as fluidly as GSM BT phones.
unfortunately mobile wireless communication technology is very far advanced in europe and asia than here in north america.
www.bluetooth.com
so far only GSM (fido/rogers) phones have bluetooth capabilities. i think this is because over whelming cell phones in the world are GSM, or GSM has the rights with bluetooth, either way this is going to change.
though very limited, bluetooth enabled CDMA phones will be coming to the market, but be aware that they are very limited.
under BT, the idea is as long as they are paired it should work. on the other hand since BMW did not test ( or will not test in the future) CDMA / BT phones, there is a chance it will not work or cannot function as fluidly as GSM BT phones.
unfortunately mobile wireless communication technology is very far advanced in europe and asia than here in north america.
02-20-2005, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dean' date='Feb 20 2005, 07:35 PM
Do Canadian's get Active Roll Stabilization?? I cannot find it anywhere on bmw.ca's site.
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Correct?
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There is nothing inherently incompatible between CDMA and bluetooth.
CDMA takes more battery power than GSM and bluetooth also takes extra battery power. This is the only "obstacle"
Given that Telus has the v710, there is no problem with BMW bluetooth. I use a CDMA phone with bluetooth.
CDMA takes more battery power than GSM and bluetooth also takes extra battery power. This is the only "obstacle"
Given that Telus has the v710, there is no problem with BMW bluetooth. I use a CDMA phone with bluetooth.