The key word in my last post is 'just'...

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The key word in my last post is 'just'...

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OK, so let me try to understand things. You said you understood why BMW didn't put AS in the M5. Why, I ask again do you think that is?

I also understand you'd prefer an M5 with AS, so you can enjoy driving it to work more as well as in general track use. So now I'm curious to hear what you have to say on the above.

Quite simple. *I* think the reason BMW decided not to offer AS on the M5 is that it would start people complaining about the thing not being hard-core enough. Too many gadgets and too far removed from the E39 M5.
I for one don't share the opinion that AS takes away the feel. I drive the sh*t out of my diesel and it handles perfectly.
I feel it's just one of those things that people will slag off because it's new, too modern and not neccessary. Just like the 3 click indicators for example.
This car fits me like a glove.

Bingo! They learned from all the complaints they got from many E60 owners. That's also why it's now, or will be soon be, no longer packaged with the Sports Package on the E60. BMW finally understood IMO that AS took away for many. If they didn't, they wouldn't take it away from the M5 and make it a stand alone option on the E60. They understood that this AS technology is not something that they can just shove down everyone's throat, hoping that people will all eventually get used to it and learn to love it.

This is different, because things like iDrive, 3-click indicators, etc. don't interfere really with the DRIVE of the car. The feel of the car is mainly what BMW is known/reknown for. IMO they realized AS should have been just an option. Just like adaptive cruise control. Some may like it, and some may not. But if BMW really thought that AS was the way to go, then it WOULD be on the M5 and still part of the E60 Sports Package - if not on every E60 by default. But BMW did not. And THIS is why I call AS silly, stupid, and not necessary. Technology for technology's sake being shoved down our throats didn't work apparently

You have gotta be ****ing kidding me. Let me refresh your memory.

This is my first post on the thread:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...indpost&p=88596

And this is your first post on the topic:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...indpost&p=88808

And the next post by you:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...indpost&p=88810

Now it may be just me? but it sure looks like you cast the first stone. But I am the one who?s trying to stir the pot? Is like you said? ?Time stamp don?t lie iceman Also it helps to read more carefully before getting into a qouting contest..? Guess it doesn?t apply to you?? Or are you the type that can dish it out but can?t take it on the chim?? It?s a 2 ways street pal.

Quit point the fingers at others, it helps if you look into the mirror sometimes.

Is that the same reason why they took away the fog lights on the M5??

Is that the same reason why they took away the fog lights on the M5??
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You are quite the comedian. The reason they took away the foglights is because of Iceman :P

Why do you suppose PDC is there?

Just my 0.02. Urbo, by calling it silly, stupid and not neccesary, you are indirectly questioning the judgement of those who have it and like. Hence the defensive response from some. Now this thread has spiraled from a discussion about the merits or lack thereof of AS to personal attacks.

And I must say your quick response about the silly and unneccesary PDC technology is the reserve argument that others are making about AS. You basically admit that it's silly, but it is useful for your wife when she is parking your car. Many feel the same way about the AS. Is it the purist driving experience that one can have. Maybe not, but the technology is useful to and enjoyed by many drivers. As I said earlier, I didn't care for it during my test drive and that is the only reason that I ordered my car without the Sports Package.

How about we let those who have their AS enjoy it and those of us who decided not to get it enjoy our cars sans the AS.

Drive On! :thumbsup:

We allready have real drive by wire technology in our cars, and I don't mean the AS. ;)



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We have to pay for it over here in Germany, and we do. It is a stand alone option for us.




The reason for that is that we have a nice and friendly little community going on here, and we like to keep it that way. Negativity spreads like wildfire, before you know it we're back to Roadfly. The fact that you didn't get this option is statement enough that you don't like it. The idea is to let the enthousiasts banter on about their cars. That is why people keep coming back here. If I want to hear from somebody that doesn't like my car I'll go to an Audi forum.
THAT, my friend, is where the sensitivity comes from.

Just an explanation, not an attack mate. :)
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Well said! :thumbsup:



That is plain and simple because the Emmy has a total different set up that fits waaay better to the M. The steering is not the same like in the regular E60!


So what you're saying is, that everybody who buys a Porsche, an Ferrari, a Bugatti, etc... is stupid, aren't you?
That's what I read in between your lines!

If I want a track car, I will not buy ANY stock car, I will allways mod it for track! But ppl want fast and superb handling cars for their daily use. If they want 507 HP, why not? Do they need to take it on track because some urbo thinks the car is meant for track use? NO!
If you think the M5 is meant for track use only you have not understand the concept of the M-cars!


NO!
When they made the decission that the Emmy will not get AS, the E60 wasn't even out!





Oh, BTW...

You think AS is silly... Well, it is so silly, that all other car manufacturers are now starting to copy it. It is also the "innovation of the year". Even Porsche is building something very similar to AS soon.

I am all for that!! :thumbsup:

cheers,

beewang :whistle: