swajames

The RS4 just got compared to the M5 over here - and the RS4 won. Not as silly a comparison as it might appear, the RS4 and M5 are the only two sport sedans over 70K available with manual transmissions over here.

BMW MAN

Why is it silly, drive the car then make a judgement call, I'm talking performance the 550 is a great car and is pretty quick but not in the same ballpark as the RS4 and the handling no comparision. I still love my 550 though.

CVTBenhogan

Sorry. See post below.

CVTBenhogan

Big suprise? Don't think so.

Note to self. A much cheaper EVO smokes em all.

Given the reviewers logic, should we compare the M3 and M5 then? Who wins that one boys? While minus two doors, the M3 gets compared to the RS4 and S4 all the time. The A4 models really don't have backseats. LOL My A4 is downright cramped. Cute as a button though. That said, lets go a bit zany and compare the M5 to the S8? Ah, the M5 is judged sportier but the S8 wins overall due to its AWD poise, elegant styling (non-Bangle) and quality interior. The logic can bends away further with the IS350 taking down the 550.

Its reasonable to assume RS4 wins hands down the performance category(Edmund's target category in the test). Its a smaller car and its in a lighter weight class. Right? In terms of comfort, the M5 gets points given the greater room and the longer wheel basis. We know this comfort advantage is offset by the frustrations of I-drive and gadgets. Actually, the real takeaway from Edmunds is BMW's tragic error on non-defeatable traction control and the old six speeder. OMFG. Maybe the engineers fired by Audi have corrupted the Shunks works in Munich.

Some of these comparisons are just mag filler cause there is nothing else to write. Edmunds should do a relevant comparo, suchas the 550 smoking the 4.2 A6 and Merc. Really need to throw in an M45 and the new GS350 or 450h.

One last item, its very obvious that the auto press is very impressed with Audi performance offerings. Not being too BMW biased, my hats off to Audi in the uber car segment. Lots of good progress. Its too bad their (main line) offerings are a bit lame, ergo the 3.2 and 4.2 A6s. So we wait. I'm looking forward to the upcoming A4 chassis.



CVT Benhogan

swajames

There's already been at least one comparison like that, if I recall correctly the M45 took the overall honors in that particular test. E550 was fastest by a pretty significant margin. 550i was second.

1994_RX-7_Tour

Yes - that was a Car & Driver test done in the last 6-8 months I believe. Good comparo & enjoyable reading I thought. 550i lost mainly due to price and the frustrating I-Drive. If you take away those 2 issues, the 550i was judged the best car overall in that comparison (driving perspective). OBTW - the M45 was the SPORT trimline which is an optional version of M45.

General comment: What makes a car better than another? In the eye of the beholder... so "it depends", right? There are certainly objective tests of performance with metrics & numbers to compare, price :'( , then there are the intangible / subjective aspects: how does it LOOK, how does it feel to sit in it, drive it, do you like the amount of room (bigger not always better for some people), etc. Do you own other cars with different characteristics you don't want duplicated? Is it important to have a "rare" or "unique" car that won't be seen all around? And there's the added factor peace of mind - which has better safety / crash protection, better maintenance plan (BMW sounds great w/ 4yr/50K deal). Everyone has different factors that are more / less important to them. Bottom line point I am making is that only the person getting the car can truly say what is "best" for them.

So it's fun (and educational) to read & contribute to all the discussions of 535xi this vs. S6 that vs. 550i, etc.. in the end - find a car that speaks to your gut & "just fits" for YOU (that you can afford of course). Me? I love my RX-7 (100K+ miles & going) but will probably get a 2008 550i/Sports pkg loaded w/most fun toys to become my "dream commute" car that I can take along with some friends on fun jaunts.

swajames

Absolutely agree. You'll love the 550!

swajames

Absolutely agree. You'll love the 550!

CVTBenhogan

Sorry for hijacking the thread away from the S6.

Yeah I know about the many tests. The 5er is always the best performer but price and I-drive drag it down. Believe most tests included 545, not that this matters much. You know doubt remember the heavy 4.2 A6 taking the crown in Automobile mag. Another case in point of shabby journalism or good smoke!!! I think the 545 went to battle without the sports package with its monterous sticker.

Alittle more hijacking. Who here on this board wishes to trade their E60 in for 4.2 A6? This includes 530s which are just as fast as the big Audi. Stand and be counted. LOL Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I was specifically wondering why Edmunds didn't do a bigger test. I respect their opinion, ergo S6. They referenced the 550 as the clear performance leader over the A6 4.2 and E550. Again, the Audi was decribed as being sluggish and heavy on its feet, as the 550 viewed its German rivals in the rear view mirror. I was particularly interested in their take on the M45, as this car has won a number of comparos. Oh well.

CVT Benhogan

swajames

I do agree re the regular A6. When I got my 545 and later my 550 I looked at the A6 4.2 too and it really is no match for the V8 BMW's. In fact Audi inadvertently put me in a BMW - I drove straight from the Audi dealer having driven the A6 4.2 to the BMW dealer, then having tested the 545 right after the A6 I got the 545 on the spot. (that said, and with apologies for harping on about the S6, you'll have to believe me that it does genuinely feel and drive nothing like the regular A6!)