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Old 08-05-2008, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CLONESPECIALISTS' post='640267' date='Aug 5 2008, 12:07 PM
I am the person who has been turning out these beautifully painted kits for Tony aka Quad-m aka Victor (the name known to me) for the past eight months.

and then it changed to Zafer T. Tamer, but you knew him as simply "Victor" for 8 months?!?! and if your such a good business man (in the business for 25+ years).. Why would you let someone do business with you without knowing their name or location?

+If you live right by him and he supposably owes you money why not file a lawsuit against? With his name I'm sure it wouldn't be heard to find him!
Old 08-05-2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CLONESPECIALISTS' post='640600' date='Aug 6 2008, 01:40 AM
If you read, I already explain to one member the entire background of my business. What is fishy about it???????I don't get you people. In 1985 my partner, Arnold and I started a paint and body shop, I bought my partner out in 1996 and changed the name to my name Karl's collision center, then in 2001 we named it NMB Collision Center for the location in North Miami Beach. What the hell is the problem. Any idiot can see in public records the name of the owner remains the same. STUPID I may not want your business in particular especially when you have the gull to make comments about tony's twin brother. I'd like to say that to you since your money was taken too.
Sorry but the only "STUPID" person here is you, how can you go and insult me and fellow e60 members and think you are going to do business on this site??? As of now my opinion and any other e60s member here opinion is valued more then any of your words. honestly you think anyone is going to do business with you??? after the hard time they have faced with tony??? You are, i mean "were" his partner for god sake. Watch you be into this with tony himself! Sorry but i am not going to let another of my e60 brothers get ripped off or faked, and from the looks of it your attituted towards everyone is shit and that is the truth EXACTLY LIKE TONYS BEFORE HE LEFT!
Old 08-05-2008, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CLONESPECIALISTS' post='640595' date='Aug 6 2008, 01:31 AM
I must say he must be a shrewd business man if he fooled all of us.
Is this what it takes to be considered a "shrewd business man?" I don't think what he did qualifies as shrewd, business-like or man-like.
Old 08-06-2008, 12:26 AM
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Damnit!!!

Let's not forget the main focus at the present is to find Tony. I really don't care about getting a new M-Tech or whatever -- I want to find Tony and the past day our whole focus has been turned to Clonespecialist.

We're getting off track here.

Let's get back to Tony please.

Also, Clonespecialist, if you can help in any way, we'd appreciate it. Personally, I am looking for a photo of him. If anyone knows, PM me. My lawyer has gotten someone investigating into this as well.

Tony, I'm still waiting. Once the end of the month is up, I won't be so polite.

It's still not too late.
Old 08-06-2008, 01:26 AM
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We're out almost $30k and I dont think we're ready to shell out another $30k regardless of whether you can or cannot ship the goods. Since you are in his neck of the woods, if you can help us find this guy, I'm sure you'll get a lot of business once we get our money back.
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It's been said before, call the guy and get more information. And if anyone is local, you can do the community a great service by checking out this guy's business. He is offering to paint and ship before getting paid? How many people do that? Again, assuming it is legit, that's not a bad deal. Don't get me wrong, Quad_M has left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. He is a scammer, pure and simple. And I am sorry for all of you that have had to endure all you are going through. I hope everything gets resolved to everyone's liking soon. But this guy is asking you to call or stop by so he can validate himself. I would be cautious and wary but maybe someone should check him out before bashing him repeatedly. You guys are not bringing anything new to the table by doing this. The witch hunt is for Tony, not all business people operate the same way. Innoceant until proven guilty right? Someone check this guy out. If you still think something is fishy, then we can go from there. Just my .02 cents.
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Originally Posted by too solid' post='640607
Sorry but the only "STUPID" person here is you, how can you go and insult me and fellow e60 members and think you are going to do business on this site??? As of now my opinion and any other e60s member here opinion is valued more then any of your words. honestly you think anyone is going to do business with you??? after the hard time they have faced with tony??? You are, i mean "were" his partner for god sake. Watch you be into this with tony himself! Sorry but i am not going to let another of my e60 brothers get ripped off or faked, and from the looks of it your attituted towards everyone is shit and that is the truth EXACTLY LIKE TONYS BEFORE HE LEFT!
He got attacked by forum members, so he over reacted a bit.
That's it.

I am sure he doesn't wanted to insult anyone here on the forum!
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OK guys,

up at this point I've read enough!



If you don't trust this guy, don't make business with him.

He made an offer.
That's it.


Thanks.
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INFO ON "TONY" - I ran the name Zafer T Tamer through public records, and a couple addresses popped up in Florida along with some phone numbers. There is no way in hell that i'll post that info on here, but can tell you that I ran it through www.lexis.com. Not trying to be a douche, just dont want to be called into any litigation. PM me and we can chat.
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Originally Posted by CLONESPECIALISTS' post='640267' date='Aug 5 2008, 10:07 PM
...it seems as though I was used as the scape goat for late shipments, even going as far to blame it on family illness at body shop. None of which was true. ...
He also claimed BMW had the parts on back order... again and again and again... which never was the truth!


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