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Old 08-05-2008, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nicewithit' post='640548' date='Aug 6 2008, 12:00 AM
Yeah, something is definitely fishy about this. I once asked quad about a kit and wheels but my car was involved in a bad wreck not long after. I come back to this forum from time to time just to read and lately I've been thinking about getting another 545. I cant believe everything thats going on with quad_m and him screwing everyone over. I can't imagine what you guys are going through and wish you the best of luck in getting some sort of resolution. Anyways I think there is something just not right with this Clonespecialist popping up out of no where willing to ship unpaid kits. I also dont think this is some guy who got screwed by Tony either. Clonespecialist....thats not a suspicious name at all
Well, I did I had to wait 7 weeks to get paid on one kit and never got paid for the rest. so I don't know who you are that thinks he know everything. but maybe you asked before you assume. Where did you want us to pop up from? whatever. people like you are never satisfied.
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Instead of bashing clone someone in Florida go check out the shop they are plenty of Florida members here, and report back.
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Hey CloneSpecialists, why all in a sudden you come to this board and make posts frequently like today? Right at the time that quad_m is being fired so furiously? Right at the time that our fellow forum member are getting together to start legal action on quad_m? Even at 12am? Are you up to something? Why Why Why? Everything just sounds very very fishy.

If anyone is at this shop talking to this Karl in the future, you might actually be talking to Tony/Vic/Quad_m. Just my $0.02.
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Clone,

Certainly there are going to be skeptics here and I realize you're trying to prove something that is difficult to prove. I'd like to add, at this early stage, that the photos you posted really don't prove a thing. To be honest, the front door shot doesn't seem to match up very well with the shots of the work area, etc. Again, maybe we're all just being extra cautious but then again, can you blame us?

If you want to use photos to help prove who you say you are, you're going to have to do better than just throw up some random images...
Old 08-05-2008, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tbone550i' post='640477' date='Aug 5 2008, 10:12 PM
I have absolutely no idea, but.....

Call me crazy, but the only way that I would consider taking on the payment method he is offering (mail you the product and you pay me later) is if I got screwed by Tony, and was out money...........but ended up with a bunch of Tony's kits laying around my shop that I needed to unload.

Again.....just my .02
I think if this guy is what he say he is "Tbone550i" i totally agree. Still sounds super fishy, Karl's Collision Center; 1919 NE 153rd St; North Miami Beach Thats is what comes out when you google the number he provided us, but the name of the place in the pictures he posted of the shop is called NMB Collision Center . BTW This guys attitude sounds like tony's twin brother. Sorry man but i am not buying your story, i dont think anyone is....
Old 08-05-2008, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by too solid' post='640573' date='Aug 6 2008, 12:42 AM
+1, but it seems a bit strange to do business with someone for 8 months and not know there real name or address.. and at first he said that quad_m's name was Victor, and then it changed to Zafer T. Tamer somehow?!?!?

With the offer he has of sending the money after you recieve the shipment sounds good, I mean how can that not be legit? but on the other hand some things don't add up.. maybe were wrong about clone! Who knows..
What doesn't add up? Let me tell you this person is good, real good. We knew him as Victor, but we constantly overheard his telephone calls to you all calling himself Tony. BMW is also looking for Victor/Tony/Quad=m and we heard his real legal name was Zafer T. Tamer. What do you mean somehow it changed, like we pulled it out of a hat. for godsakes that's what half of you wanted was info on Tony. That was all I knew. I didn't reach out to you people to be a detective I was offering my services if anyone wanted a kit painted to the T. Again, what doesn't add up? He came to us because we were recommended as being great painters and approached us to paint kits for him. He wouldn't show up till 4:00 and expect us to paint for him when my guys leave at 5. I didn't know his personal life, I didn't know where he lived, etc. Just because I trusted him like you all did and he turned out to be a ===== doesn't mean I fall in those shoes. I must say he must be a shrewd business man if he fooled all of us. you asked if I knew his real name!
Old 08-05-2008, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tex_phil' post='640580' date='Aug 6 2008, 01:04 AM
Instead of bashing clone someone in Florida go check out the shop they are plenty of Florida members here, and report back.
Great idea, please come by and I would be happy to show you our facility.
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Originally Posted by elite_motorsports_BMW' post='640592' date='Aug 6 2008, 01:22 AM
I think if this guy is what he say he is "Tbone550i" i totally agree. Still sounds super fishy, Karl's Collision Center; 1919 NE 153rd St; North Miami Beach Thats is what comes out when you google the number he provided us, but the name of the place in the pictures he posted of the shop is called NMB Collision Center . BTW This guys attitude sounds like tony's twin brother. Sorry man but i am not buying your story, i dont think anyone is....

If you read, I already explain to one member the entire background of my business. What is fishy about it???????I don't get you people. In 1985 my partner, Arnold and I started a paint and body shop, I bought my partner out in 1996 and changed the name to my name Karl's collision center, then in 2001 we named it NMB Collision Center for the location in North Miami Beach. What the hell is the problem. Any idiot can see in public records the name of the owner remains the same. STUPID I may not want your business in particular especially when you have the gull to make comments about tony's twin brother. I'd like to say that to you since your money was taken too.
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Originally Posted by Bambi' post='640583' date='Aug 6 2008, 01:06 AM
Hey CloneSpecialists, why all in a sudden you come to this board and make posts frequently like today? Right at the time that quad_m is being fired so furiously? Right at the time that our fellow forum member are getting together to start legal action on quad_m? Even at 12am? Are you up to something? Why Why Why? Everything just sounds very very fishy.

If anyone is at this shop talking to this Karl in the future, you might actually be talking to Tony/Vic/Quad_m. Just my $0.02.
Once again as explained before, but some people just don't get it! Now that we do not deal with Tony/Victor anymore (severed ties means) we are able to put ourselves out there to offer our services. We certaintly couldn't do it while we were painting for him, now could we. Oh my god. I didn't know what your fellow forum members were up to. I just got wind of this site and felt maybe I could offer my services. You people are so leery. Why weren't you so leery when Tony contacted you. Why didn't you question him. Seems I' m paying for your insignifigant shortcomings. At 12 a.m. because I am in such awe at the hassle I am receiving.
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Originally Posted by CLONESPECIALISTS' post='640595' date='Aug 6 2008, 01:31 AM
What doesn't add up? Let me tell you this person is good, real good. We knew him as Victor, but we constantly overheard his telephone calls to you all calling himself Tony. BMW is also looking for Victor/Tony/Quad=m and we heard his real legal name was Zafer T. Tamer. What do you mean somehow it changed, like we pulled it out of a hat. for godsakes that's what half of you wanted was info on Tony. That was all I knew. I didn't reach out to you people to be a detective I was offering my services if anyone wanted a kit painted to the T. Again, what doesn't add up? He came to us because we were recommended as being great painters and approached us to paint kits for him. He wouldn't show up till 4:00 and expect us to paint for him when my guys leave at 5. I didn't know his personal life, I didn't know where he lived, etc. Just because I trusted him like you all did and he turned out to be a ===== doesn't mean I fall in those shoes. I must say he must be a shrewd business man if he fooled all of us. you asked if I knew his real name!


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