March 04 E60 - Can it or Can it not have bluetooth
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So after reading it seems that my March 04 E60 MIGHT have the correct tcu in which a software upgrade can turn on the bluetooth functionality. I read on the forum that it depends when in March it was built. Is there a way to look at the TCU and know if it is bluetooth compatible or not?
Also, am I correct in saying the software upgrade is 14 or higher and we are now at 25. My software has not been upgraded for that long???? And...I just bought it certified used, shouldn't it have the most up to date software installed?
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Also, am I correct in saying the software upgrade is 14 or higher and we are now at 25. My software has not been upgraded for that long???? And...I just bought it certified used, shouldn't it have the most up to date software installed?
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Originally Posted by lovinthe545' post='424962' date='May 16 2007, 04:42 AM
So after reading it seems that my March 04 E60 MIGHT have the correct tcu in which a software upgrade can turn on the bluetooth functionality. I read on the forum that it depends when in March it was built. Is there a way to look at the TCU and know if it is bluetooth compatible or not?
Also, am I correct in saying the software upgrade is 14 or higher and we are now at 25. My software has not been upgraded for that long???? And...I just bought it certified used, shouldn't it have the most up to date software installed?
thanks in adavance, this site is awesome.
-Martin
Also, am I correct in saying the software upgrade is 14 or higher and we are now at 25. My software has not been upgraded for that long???? And...I just bought it certified used, shouldn't it have the most up to date software installed?
thanks in adavance, this site is awesome.
-Martin
My e60 was also a March 04 build. They way I checked on the bluetooth was to call BMWNA (800-831-1117) and give them the last 7 digits of my VIN number. They told me I had the correct TCU in my car. I got different answers from the dealer's service department. But, when I went to the parts guy at the dealership, he looked up my VIN number and also verified I could activate the bluetooth with a software upgrade. I had the upgrade for some warranty issues and asked them to turn on the bluetooth during the upgrade. They did this at no charge to me.
As far as having the newst upgrade on a CPO car, I doubt if many dealers upgrade the software on a car that is not showing any problems. My car was a CPO car and it did not have the newest software. If I were to buy another CPO car, I would now know to ask for a software upgrade as part of the deal. But, when I bought my first BMW, I hadn't discovered this board yet.
Good luck and enjoy your car.
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Originally Posted by MDT' post='424965' date='May 16 2007, 06:59 AM
Martin,
My e60 was also a March 04 build. They way I checked on the bluetooth was to call BMWNA (800-831-1117) and give them the last 7 digits of my VIN number. They told me I had the correct TCU in my car. I got different answers from the dealer's service department. But, when I went to the parts guy at the dealership, he looked up my VIN number and also verified I could activate the bluetooth with a software upgrade. I had the upgrade for some warranty issues and asked them to turn on the bluetooth during the upgrade. They did this at no charge to me.
As far as having the newst upgrade on a CPO car, I doubt if many dealers upgrade the software on a car that is not showing any problems. My car was a CPO car and it did not have the newest software. If I were to buy another CPO car, I would now know to ask for a software upgrade as part of the deal. But, when I bought my first BMW, I hadn't discovered this board yet.
Good luck and enjoy your car.
Mike
My e60 was also a March 04 build. They way I checked on the bluetooth was to call BMWNA (800-831-1117) and give them the last 7 digits of my VIN number. They told me I had the correct TCU in my car. I got different answers from the dealer's service department. But, when I went to the parts guy at the dealership, he looked up my VIN number and also verified I could activate the bluetooth with a software upgrade. I had the upgrade for some warranty issues and asked them to turn on the bluetooth during the upgrade. They did this at no charge to me.
As far as having the newst upgrade on a CPO car, I doubt if many dealers upgrade the software on a car that is not showing any problems. My car was a CPO car and it did not have the newest software. If I were to buy another CPO car, I would now know to ask for a software upgrade as part of the deal. But, when I bought my first BMW, I hadn't discovered this board yet.
Good luck and enjoy your car.
Mike
I called that number and spoke to this lady. She said that my car was built on March 23, 2004 and that no 2004 models have the bluetooth capability. She acted like she was POSITIVE. Whats up with that?
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Just called back and got the same lady. I quoted from the SI B84 13 04 that states: it is possible. She said it is possible but the dealership would have to try it. She wouldn't say if it could or couldn't. I saw on some post on this forum that March 04 builds might or might not have bluetooth capibility. Anyone know how to check for sure without taking it to the dealership?
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Originally Posted by lovinthe545' post='424985' date='May 16 2007, 07:49 AM
Just called back and got the same lady. I quoted from the SI B84 13 04 that states: it is possible. She said it is possible but the dealership would have to try it. She wouldn't say if it could or couldn't. I saw on some post on this forum that March 04 builds might or might not have bluetooth capibility. Anyone know how to check for sure without taking it to the dealership?
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Originally Posted by lovinthe545' post='424981' date='May 16 2007, 06:42 AM
I called that number and spoke to this lady. She said that my car was built on March 23, 2004 and that no 2004 models have the bluetooth capability. She acted like she was POSITIVE. Whats up with that?
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Keep after it and you should have bluetooth in no time as well as some of the other new items from the newer software updates.
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Originally Posted by lovinthe545' post='424981' date='May 16 2007, 09:42 AM
I called that number and spoke to this lady. She said that my car was built on March 23, 2004 and that no 2004 models have the bluetooth capability. She acted like she was POSITIVE. Whats up with that?
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The only way to tell for sure is to expose the TCU and read the part number off it's sticker. Some BMW dealers have swapped out TCU's on vehicles due to past problems.
This is actually fairly easy to do. It's in the trunk on the driver seat nearer to the rear seat section. To expose it remove the section nearest to the end of the car by unscrewing the metal hook and then popping out the plastic rivet. The plastic shell will pop out, and then you can peel back the carpet section closer to the rear seat and you'll see the TCU w/ a number (3-5) of small round BNC type cables coming into the top. It's a long silver rectangle. If your luck the sticker will be face out and you can read the part number otherwise you can release the bracket and read it from the other side.
If you take a look at this diagram; http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...;fg=10&hl=3
I believe all part no's after 84116942592 will work. If you have 84116942592 that will have a BT logo and a BT antenna but cannot be activated. I would love somebody to correct me on this
This is actually fairly easy to do. It's in the trunk on the driver seat nearer to the rear seat section. To expose it remove the section nearest to the end of the car by unscrewing the metal hook and then popping out the plastic rivet. The plastic shell will pop out, and then you can peel back the carpet section closer to the rear seat and you'll see the TCU w/ a number (3-5) of small round BNC type cables coming into the top. It's a long silver rectangle. If your luck the sticker will be face out and you can read the part number otherwise you can release the bracket and read it from the other side.
If you take a look at this diagram; http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...;fg=10&hl=3
I believe all part no's after 84116942592 will work. If you have 84116942592 that will have a BT logo and a BT antenna but cannot be activated. I would love somebody to correct me on this
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Originally Posted by z0lt3c' post='425703' date='May 17 2007, 09:02 PM
The only way to tell for sure is to expose the TCU and read the part number off it's sticker. Some BMW dealers have swapped out TCU's on vehicles due to past problems.
This is actually fairly easy to do. It's in the trunk on the driver seat nearer to the rear seat section. To expose it remove the section nearest to the end of the car by unscrewing the metal hook and then popping out the plastic rivet. The plastic shell will pop out, and then you can peel back the carpet section closer to the rear seat and you'll see the TCU w/ a number (3-5) of small round BNC type cables coming into the top. It's a long silver rectangle. If your luck the sticker will be face out and you can read the part number otherwise you can release the bracket and read it from the other side.
If you take a look at this diagram; http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...;fg=10&hl=3
I believe all part no's after 84116942592 will work. If you have 84116942592 that will have a BT logo and a BT antenna but cannot be activated. I would love somebody to correct me on this
This is actually fairly easy to do. It's in the trunk on the driver seat nearer to the rear seat section. To expose it remove the section nearest to the end of the car by unscrewing the metal hook and then popping out the plastic rivet. The plastic shell will pop out, and then you can peel back the carpet section closer to the rear seat and you'll see the TCU w/ a number (3-5) of small round BNC type cables coming into the top. It's a long silver rectangle. If your luck the sticker will be face out and you can read the part number otherwise you can release the bracket and read it from the other side.
If you take a look at this diagram; http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...;fg=10&hl=3
I believe all part no's after 84116942592 will work. If you have 84116942592 that will have a BT logo and a BT antenna but cannot be activated. I would love somebody to correct me on this