E65 - Current 7 Series
07-07-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hondik' post='581468' date='May 16 2008, 12:03 AM
I got to test drive 745d 2005, Adaptive Drive (Dynamic Drive + EDC), Soft Close, Logic 7 and several other options.. for one hour today and my thoughts and opinion is:
+ I always liked the visage and presence of the facelifted E65 so it could be a car I would worship almost as much as E60
+ No matter how big it is, parking and maneuvering in low speeds in the city felt easy and as nimble as in E60
+ The V8 engine is great. Very silent, powerful enough and when it comes to the sound, it's almost like petrol one. Of course not that addictive but not annoying like in 535d. Just nice! Consumption was incredible, 8l / 100 Km (35 mpg UK, 29 mpg US)
+ Adaptive Drive balances the car no matter where and how you drive. Very comfortable and people in the back don't get seasick
+ You travel up to the limiter in total silence. I thought we had a sunroof opened, that much difference it was when the darkening sunroof screen was opened and closed.
+ People in the car can talk without distraction up to 220 Km/h (and without noticing). My wife was talking to my friend while I was traveling 220 Km/h just as we would be going 100 Km/h. I loved that.
+ Logic 7 is of course +1.
+ The ride is refreshing and relaxing.
+ I could find a better driving position in E65 then in E60. I have to mention I have exactly the same seats.
- It's a heavy car. Until you need brakes, it's fine and you don't notice the extra weight.
- Cornering isn't fun and I had to slow down 80% of the time when entering curves because it seemed to be rolling too fast for its weight. Maybe it would be OK but it just didn't feel sure.
- There was no Active Steering, one option you get used to very quickly and in a car not equipped with AS you are like Steven Seagal in his best form.
- The car was shaking more then expected on a bumpy road.
- High speed braking and maneuvering wasn't really that good. Golden E60. Maybe it's that false sense of security that makes you go faster then you should.
- The depreciation is huge. It's just a matter of everyone's personal index of depreciation acceptation.
- X-Drive would suit the 7er better. The next one will have X6's system. That will attract more buyers (steal from Audi A8).
Back to what you said - you were all right .. I like what you said, your opinions. One of the reasons I wanted to think about buying this car was what Kyosaki said: "Buy older luxury car" and that's what this is. Such car for such funny money (40K EUR). But you have to drive it until it's dead or you lose a lot on depreciation. At least 4 - 5 years. I don't think I could wait that long.
I like what Kell said: "I think the thing you have to ask is would you buy it if it wasn't half-price." - No I wouldn't. Not in my age (27yrs).
And westcoast550 said to buy M3 sedan
This seems like a lot lot lot more fun - of course and maybe that will be the final choice! I will leave 5er to my wife and get a practical M3 that just seem like the best idea ever
Conclusion: I like it a lot, it is a very nice car to drive and to be in. But I wouldn't switch from E60.
Let's say:
E60 - Classic
E65 - Culture
+ I always liked the visage and presence of the facelifted E65 so it could be a car I would worship almost as much as E60
+ No matter how big it is, parking and maneuvering in low speeds in the city felt easy and as nimble as in E60
+ The V8 engine is great. Very silent, powerful enough and when it comes to the sound, it's almost like petrol one. Of course not that addictive but not annoying like in 535d. Just nice! Consumption was incredible, 8l / 100 Km (35 mpg UK, 29 mpg US)
+ Adaptive Drive balances the car no matter where and how you drive. Very comfortable and people in the back don't get seasick
+ You travel up to the limiter in total silence. I thought we had a sunroof opened, that much difference it was when the darkening sunroof screen was opened and closed.
+ People in the car can talk without distraction up to 220 Km/h (and without noticing). My wife was talking to my friend while I was traveling 220 Km/h just as we would be going 100 Km/h. I loved that.
+ Logic 7 is of course +1.
+ The ride is refreshing and relaxing.
+ I could find a better driving position in E65 then in E60. I have to mention I have exactly the same seats.
- It's a heavy car. Until you need brakes, it's fine and you don't notice the extra weight.
- Cornering isn't fun and I had to slow down 80% of the time when entering curves because it seemed to be rolling too fast for its weight. Maybe it would be OK but it just didn't feel sure.
- There was no Active Steering, one option you get used to very quickly and in a car not equipped with AS you are like Steven Seagal in his best form.
- The car was shaking more then expected on a bumpy road.
- High speed braking and maneuvering wasn't really that good. Golden E60. Maybe it's that false sense of security that makes you go faster then you should.
- The depreciation is huge. It's just a matter of everyone's personal index of depreciation acceptation.
- X-Drive would suit the 7er better. The next one will have X6's system. That will attract more buyers (steal from Audi A8).
Back to what you said - you were all right .. I like what you said, your opinions. One of the reasons I wanted to think about buying this car was what Kyosaki said: "Buy older luxury car" and that's what this is. Such car for such funny money (40K EUR). But you have to drive it until it's dead or you lose a lot on depreciation. At least 4 - 5 years. I don't think I could wait that long.
I like what Kell said: "I think the thing you have to ask is would you buy it if it wasn't half-price." - No I wouldn't. Not in my age
(27yrs).And westcoast550 said to buy M3 sedan
This seems like a lot lot lot more fun - of course and maybe that will be the final choice! I will leave 5er to my wife and get a practical M3 that just seem like the best idea ever Conclusion: I like it a lot, it is a very nice car to drive and to be in. But I wouldn't switch from E60.
Let's say:
E60 - Classic
E65 - Culture
40K sounds like a real bargain, a 745d without options costs €120K here!
For 40K you can't even get the most basic 4-cyl 520i.
Of course the F01 is almost for sale, but it looks a bit dull, will not have a V8 diesel and will cost double or three times as much as the offer your dealer gave you. And depreciation is extreme for both cars, don't even think about that.
Why not go for the last V8 BMW diesel?
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It seems the OP mentioned that the car is used, thus I don't know how much that discount is really discount.
the new 7 series will have the twin turbo I6 diesel and will be just as good as the V8. Interior is also much nicer and modern, unlike the current interior that's strictly 20th century.
For most people the 7 series isn't really necessary, unless for business purposes. it's a car built more for the rear passengers than the driver. If you have the money, stick with the 5 as a daily driver and get a M3 for weekends.
the new 7 series will have the twin turbo I6 diesel and will be just as good as the V8. Interior is also much nicer and modern, unlike the current interior that's strictly 20th century.
For most people the 7 series isn't really necessary, unless for business purposes. it's a car built more for the rear passengers than the driver. If you have the money, stick with the 5 as a daily driver and get a M3 for weekends.
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