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Originally Posted by 700700' post='250551' date='Mar 6 2006, 11:35 AM
3-4 years , can you wait that long ![Whistling](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/whistling.gif)
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='250552' date='Mar 6 2006, 11:39 AM
That means I have 3-4 years in which to double my income and get a professional racing license ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/rolleyes.gif)
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well it certainly isnt impossible my friend
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='250553' date='Mar 6 2006, 11:39 AM
well it certainly isnt impossible my friend ![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
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Nice pics of your M3 by the way !!!!!!!
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Presume your back home again and get to drive it for a bit?
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='250544' date='Mar 6 2006, 06:16 AM
Age old problem - what do you mean by fast - 0-60mph, top speed, in gear acceleration or round a track?
Only way to know for sure is too race the new m3 and the m5 round a couple of 'different' circuits.
I think the laws of physics will overcome the m5's engine and the m3 will win. Either way I'd love to see it
But..... BMW don't always comply with the laws of physics:
M5 did the top gear lap in 1.26.2
M3 CSL managed just 1.28.0
The only proper (4 seat) car road car to best the M5 is the Evo FQ 400 at 1.24.8
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Only way to know for sure is too race the new m3 and the m5 round a couple of 'different' circuits.
I think the laws of physics will overcome the m5's engine and the m3 will win. Either way I'd love to see it
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But..... BMW don't always comply with the laws of physics:
M5 did the top gear lap in 1.26.2
M3 CSL managed just 1.28.0
The only proper (4 seat) car road car to best the M5 is the Evo FQ 400 at 1.24.8
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Also bear in mind that the csl lap you are quoteing is a wet lap while the m5 isn't. They say (at tg) that you have to substract a few seconds (3-4) to get the aprox dry time. I don't 100% agree since as the car is more and more performant it can't be the same time to substract but anyway in that case the battle would have really heatened up. My money would be on the csl.
I agree that for now there is no road car (4 seater) that can match the m5 performance. 4 door better said...
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='250584' date='Mar 6 2006, 02:11 PM
I agree that for now there is no road car (4 seater) that can match the m5 performance. 4 door better said...
i can think of some 4 seater that can smoke the m5. ![Thumbsup](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/thumbsup.gif)
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If BMW do as good a job on the new M3 as they have on the current M5, then the smaller lighter more nimble car SHOULD win through on the track - have to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='250641' date='Mar 6 2006, 08:30 PM
Apart from the EVO FQ 400 that is
If BMW do as good a job on the new M3 as they have on the current M5, then the smaller lighter more nimble car SHOULD win through on the track - have to wait and see.
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If BMW do as good a job on the new M3 as they have on the current M5, then the smaller lighter more nimble car SHOULD win through on the track - have to wait and see.
1. Does a porsche turbo count as a 4 seater?
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2. I was refering to the e46 m3 vs the e60 m5. I have no doubts that the new e90 m3 will smoke the m5 on a track. It's like comparing in a way the 330i vs 540i.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='250728' date='Mar 6 2006, 08:20 PM
Mmmm 2 things to clear up:
1. Does a porsche turbo count as a 4 seater?
2. I was refering to the e46 m3 vs the e60 m5. I have no doubts that the new e90 m3 will smoke the m5 on a track. It's like comparing in a way the 330i vs 540i.![Wink](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/wink.gif)
1. Does a porsche turbo count as a 4 seater?
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2. I was refering to the e46 m3 vs the e60 m5. I have no doubts that the new e90 m3 will smoke the m5 on a track. It's like comparing in a way the 330i vs 540i.
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I think I'd rather sit in the back of an m5 rather than a porsche
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='250737' date='Mar 7 2006, 12:29 AM
Agreed the m5 clearly wallops the m3 - which is pretty stunning stuff.
I think I'd rather sit in the back of an m5 rather than a porsche![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
I think I'd rather sit in the back of an m5 rather than a porsche
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M3
Performance
Drag coefficient 0.33 Cd
Top speed 2 155 mph
Acceleration 0-60 mph 3 4.8 sec
M5
Performance
Drag coefficient 0.31 Cd
Top speed 1 155 mph
Acceleration 0 ? 60 mph 2 4.5 sec
Performance
Drag coefficient 0.33 Cd
Top speed 2 155 mph
Acceleration 0-60 mph 3 4.8 sec
M5
Performance
Drag coefficient 0.31 Cd
Top speed 1 155 mph
Acceleration 0 ? 60 mph 2 4.5 sec
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='250178' date='Mar 5 2006, 12:50 PM
ALMOST?
You really have to define almost since i think there is no competition in any way between the e46 m3 and the e60 m5.
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You really have to define almost since i think there is no competition in any way between the e46 m3 and the e60 m5.
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