First Drive with the new E92 335Ci
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='306986' date='Jul 5 2006, 08:18 AM
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Ok...nice article, now there were 2 lines that poped into my eyes:
The thing that crosses my mind is the fact that i wonder how much of a key role does the turbo setup plays in that touch of breathless over the last 200rpm. And by that they mean 200rpm before the redline right? I'm wondering because i knew that in a NA engine (3000cc unit) the power delivery was indeed linear but still holding tight even at the redline. So you see where i'm aiming? Could the turbo setup be the reason for exactly that lack of uuumpf at the very high end of the rev band? My hunch it's yes. Because the turbos pretty much stop working at that rev range, or you're off the boost as they say....What do you think?
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So this is another review of the AS right? If they refere to AS (internal active rack) then i must say that it's worring...why? Because when i test drove the E60 a year ago or so, before ordering, i hated AS, pretty much sustaining the well known critics (less feel, jurkiness, and so on....) and then after my car arrived with standard servotronic i was more than happy. After a while the d-bates on the forum on AS, took another turn, that the newer cars fitted with AS are so much better than the prevoius models, or the cars that are chip updated (wich i hezitate to show my opinion on this , not wanting to start another hot topic). But if the latest 3 seeries coupe, a car designed to be more sporty than our E60s, doesn't get the ultra better new AS, then what's the deal here? Or simply all journalists and test drivers are all plain stupid that can't get aquainted with this "high-tech" system?!
This is a very fast car. With 295lb ft of torque from 1300rpm all the way through to 5000rpm, it will chomp through dawdling traffic. And, in the BMW tradition, it still likes to rev to around 6500rpm if required, although it becomes a touch breathless over the last 200rpm.
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...and I can?t give you an accurate assessment of the car?s steering because ours was fitted with BMW?s infernal active rack. It is lifeless, arcade game stuff that doesn?t belong on a car whose chassis is otherwise so well developed.
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So this is another review of the AS right? If they refere to AS (internal active rack) then i must say that it's worring...why? Because when i test drove the E60 a year ago or so, before ordering, i hated AS, pretty much sustaining the well known critics (less feel, jurkiness, and so on....) and then after my car arrived with standard servotronic i was more than happy. After a while the d-bates on the forum on AS, took another turn, that the newer cars fitted with AS are so much better than the prevoius models, or the cars that are chip updated (wich i hezitate to show my opinion on this , not wanting to start another hot topic). But if the latest 3 seeries coupe, a car designed to be more sporty than our E60s, doesn't get the ultra better new AS, then what's the deal here? Or simply all journalists and test drivers are all plain stupid that can't get aquainted with this "high-tech" system?!
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Originally Posted by colejl' post='307878' date='Jul 7 2006, 01:16 PM
My assumption would be because the turbo's are 'small' and can't provide enough puff at the top end. However, I can't see the point revving right the the red line as the delivery is so good low down... Actually, if these 'small' turbo's provide enough puff until the last 200rpm then it's still VERY impressive!
I think AS is treated like iDrive. Like most things it takes more than a 2 hour test drive to get used to things... AS takes a few weeks to adapt to and to fully appreciate...
I think AS is treated like iDrive. Like most things it takes more than a 2 hour test drive to get used to things... AS takes a few weeks to adapt to and to fully appreciate...
In 2 hours most of the men that can programe their own tv and know a thing or 2 about computers will pretty much learn almost all about idrive (ALMOST). AS is not treated like idrive for that matter since any proffesional racing driver can adapt way more quickly than the average driver...being a matter of minutes to adapt. The same people that tested the M steering system present on the M5 tests also the AS system on non-M cars. They have pretty much the same time to addapt and pretty much the same conditions to draw a conclusion.
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