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Old 02-20-2006, 01:13 AM
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Just teasing 700700 - your enthusiasm for your subject seems boundless and as a result you sometimes come over as the 'font of all knowledge'

Your info seems pretty solid - just remember though often BMW don't know what they are going to do themselves. Remember the 4-series coupe !

Historically the 3 (coupe / saloon / touring) and 5 series (saloon touring) have shared engines. Meaning that (depending on how you look at choosing a car) you are effectively choosing an engine then a body shape (or vice versa) what's interesting to me here is that this seems to suggest a diversion with engines available in one car, but not other parts of the series or range.

I don't think BMW could make a bad engine if they tried (even their smaller 4 cylinder engines punch well above their class), I'm looking forward to seeing it in the flesh and it may well lure me back to coupe's in a year or two.



I for one would be interested in a 335 turbo for the 5-series.

Since you seem to have super powers - whats the latest on the new M3 will it have this twin turbo job or something more fruity?
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='243049' date='Feb 20 2006, 10:13 AM
Since you seem to have super powers - whats the latest on the new M3 will it have this twin turbo job or something more fruity?
theoretically it will have a 4litre (3997cm3) NA v8 , basically a little brother of the m5's V10 engine. Should produce 421bhp, just slightly higher than the RS4, but for the torque, i dont know yet...


Now here's something just to get you thinking.


At the geneva show BMW is expected to announce a radical new concept, and enter into a new niche in the market, following Audi ... Audi has already done it and the product should be with us in 14 months. AS for BMW just keep your fingers crossed
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bmw TT - or is that not radical enough

Glad to see the v8 is still in the frame for the M3 - perhaps we could see a v8 turbo
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='243056
Can you tell me if they plan on releasing the 540 in the United States?
what i dont know, i DONT know i wouldnt think id appear there, since if needforspeed's
assumptions are correct the 335i engine should be carried on to the 5 series so no need
for the 540i ... But then again why would BMW introduce the 4litre v8 when they knew
the turbo would be ready...

So this points to possibly keeping the 3litre bi-turbo only in the e90/e92 and also hopefully
the z4 coupe
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='243063' date='Feb 20 2006, 07:42 PM
no TT , think much higher class, think faster, think pure bred italian

Greg better not be liying to me about this, cause ill beat his head with a stick
Yeah v8 is there, the engine is 100% internally built and they are tweaking the ecu
what i dont know, i DONT know i wouldnt think id appear there, since if needforspeed's
assumptions are correct the 335i engine should be carried on to the 5 series so no need
for the 540i ... But then again why would BMW introduce the 4litre v8 when they knew
the turbo would be ready...

So this points to possibly keeping the 3litre bi-turbo only in the e90/e92 and also hopefully
the z4 coupe
Do you mean the X6, as revealed in last week's Autocar(UK) magazine? It's certainly up market with the CLS-like body on X5 running gear!
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='243063' date='Feb 20 2006, 02:42 AM
no TT , think much higher class, think faster, think pure bred italian
Yeah, it's about time BMW did something to counter the Audi R9.

I'm thinking the oft-mentioned BMW Z9 concept?

Here's the Audi R8 (with the guts derived from the Lambo Gallardo V10)

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Originally Posted by ipse dixit' post='243528' date='Feb 21 2006, 05:00 AM
Yeah, it's about time BMW did something to counter the Audi R9.

I'm thinking the oft-mentioned BMW Z9 concept?
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Originally Posted by kopi_o' post='243525' date='Feb 21 2006, 04:40 AM
Do you mean the X6, as revealed in last week's Autocar(UK) magazine? It's certainly up market with the CLS-like body on X5 running gear!
no no not the x6

no info on the x6 engines. All i know is that it will carry the 4.8 V8 motor
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Ahhh yes, the Z9 concept!

A very early preliminary (quite frankly, a photoshop) picture from an earlier post:

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Now, that's sexy.
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Originally Posted by Centurion' post='245224' date='Feb 24 2006, 06:17 AM
Ahhh yes, the Z9 concept!

A very early preliminary (quite frankly, a photoshop) picture from an earlier post:


Now, that's sexy.
z9... never heard of it


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