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Ok I got this in an e-mail and thought it was an interesting way of looking at things. Open up your mind and dont get mad if you disagree... post your opinions, no arguments, no debate, just read others opinions. 
In 1927, a major unnamed hurricane struck the city of New Orleans.
It was actually more powerful than Katrina. The scope of damage
was much more severe because this particular hurricane actually hit
the city. Katrina missed it by 25 miles.
The interesting difference is the response the government gave in
1927 to those hurricane refugees, compared to the refugees of Katrina, err-
I meant "survivors" ---(sorry Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).
How much aid did the government dispense at that time? Zero, nada,
not one dime. And you know how much aid the army offered? The only
aid from the army came in the form of loaning the city of New Orleans
tents and camp stoves. Ironically, later, the army sued the city for
reimbursement. So what was the big difference here?
It was the attitude the people had towards the government at that time,
comparedto the attitude that Katrina's victims have. The 1927 "survivors"
expected nothing from the government. 80 years ago, people understood
that the government was there to "protect life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness." Today, Americans expect the government to "provide
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That's a major difference.
And now, a week later, when the government failed on all three levels
of local, state, and federal to provide for their needs, Americans
were sorely disappointed
Reverend Jackson and reverend Sharpton spend their opportunities
arguingabout semantics."They shouldn't be called refugees, they should
be called survivors" Unfortunately, they missed the boat. It was a
perfect opportunity to deliver a very basic message to their people.
Fact, if you are poor and uneducated in America, this is what happens.
Fact, if you depend on the government, you will be sorely disappointed.
Fact, if you are poor in America, there is no reason for you to be
uneducated. Its free! 12 grades. And if you really apply yourself,
there is enough grants and assistance out there for higher education,
which will raise you above the poverty level. And no longer will you
depend on the government and be disappointed. Its unfortunate that this
lesson will be missed by most of the "survivors".
A couple of other points should be brought to light. G. W. has asked
the congress for 50 billion dollars worth of aid for the "survivors"
and clean up of the city. Interesting isn't it? one million people
displaced and out of work in that city, sitting all day in shelters,
waiting for the next handout. Of course, the thought never occured to
anyone that just maybe, "hey, we should give all these folks jobs filling
sand bags to plug the levees and clearing trees." (Wonder how many of
them would want government aid if they had to work for it?)
And finally, they haven't hardly begun the task of picking up dead
bodies, and already the finger pointing has started. The congressional
hearings and probes will go forever. Millions will be spent on a wasted
diatribe of a bipartisan "witch hunting expedition"- all of which will
be nonsense. If you're a democrat, you are going to blame the
president. If you are a republican, you are going to blame the
mayor and the governor. This is another case in point of how the
government will once again fail its people, they could have spent the
millions educating the poor and misplaced citizens of New Orleans so
that they could go out and get a new and better life, instead of wasting
it on useless blame investigations.
In 1927, a major unnamed hurricane struck the city of New Orleans.
It was actually more powerful than Katrina. The scope of damage
was much more severe because this particular hurricane actually hit
the city. Katrina missed it by 25 miles.
The interesting difference is the response the government gave in
1927 to those hurricane refugees, compared to the refugees of Katrina, err-
I meant "survivors" ---(sorry Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).
How much aid did the government dispense at that time? Zero, nada,
not one dime. And you know how much aid the army offered? The only
aid from the army came in the form of loaning the city of New Orleans
tents and camp stoves. Ironically, later, the army sued the city for
reimbursement. So what was the big difference here?
It was the attitude the people had towards the government at that time,
comparedto the attitude that Katrina's victims have. The 1927 "survivors"
expected nothing from the government. 80 years ago, people understood
that the government was there to "protect life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness." Today, Americans expect the government to "provide
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That's a major difference.
And now, a week later, when the government failed on all three levels
of local, state, and federal to provide for their needs, Americans
were sorely disappointed
Reverend Jackson and reverend Sharpton spend their opportunities
arguingabout semantics."They shouldn't be called refugees, they should
be called survivors" Unfortunately, they missed the boat. It was a
perfect opportunity to deliver a very basic message to their people.
Fact, if you are poor and uneducated in America, this is what happens.
Fact, if you depend on the government, you will be sorely disappointed.
Fact, if you are poor in America, there is no reason for you to be
uneducated. Its free! 12 grades. And if you really apply yourself,
there is enough grants and assistance out there for higher education,
which will raise you above the poverty level. And no longer will you
depend on the government and be disappointed. Its unfortunate that this
lesson will be missed by most of the "survivors".
A couple of other points should be brought to light. G. W. has asked
the congress for 50 billion dollars worth of aid for the "survivors"
and clean up of the city. Interesting isn't it? one million people
displaced and out of work in that city, sitting all day in shelters,
waiting for the next handout. Of course, the thought never occured to
anyone that just maybe, "hey, we should give all these folks jobs filling
sand bags to plug the levees and clearing trees." (Wonder how many of
them would want government aid if they had to work for it?)
And finally, they haven't hardly begun the task of picking up dead
bodies, and already the finger pointing has started. The congressional
hearings and probes will go forever. Millions will be spent on a wasted
diatribe of a bipartisan "witch hunting expedition"- all of which will
be nonsense. If you're a democrat, you are going to blame the
president. If you are a republican, you are going to blame the
mayor and the governor. This is another case in point of how the
government will once again fail its people, they could have spent the
millions educating the poor and misplaced citizens of New Orleans so
that they could go out and get a new and better life, instead of wasting
it on useless blame investigations.
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I don't want to sound like I am jumping in a bandwagon here, but it really is a very interesting article. After reading this e-mail this morning, I was thinking likewise:
Subject: FW: Mumbai Vs New Orleans
Rain in New Orleans due to hurricane Katrina... 18.0 inches
Rain in Mumbai (July 27th)...................................... 37.1 inches
Population of New Orleans... 484,674
Population of Mumbai.... 12,622,500
Deaths in New Orleans within 48 hours of Katrina...100
Deaths in Mumbai within 48hours of rain..................... 37.
Number of people to be evacuated in New Orleans... entire city
Number of people evacuated in Mumbai........................ 10,000
Cases of shooting and violence in New Orleans ... Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in Mumbai........... NONE
Time taken for US army to reach New Orleans ................. 48 hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach Mumbai...12 hours
Status after 48 hours...New Orleans was still waiting for relief, army and
electricity
Status after 48 hours...Mumbai was back on its feet and ! it was business as
usual
And India is a third world country.
Rain in New Orleans due to hurricane Katrina... 18.0 inches
Rain in Mumbai (July 27th)...................................... 37.1 inches
Population of New Orleans... 484,674
Population of Mumbai.... 12,622,500
Deaths in New Orleans within 48 hours of Katrina...100
Deaths in Mumbai within 48hours of rain..................... 37.
Number of people to be evacuated in New Orleans... entire city
Number of people evacuated in Mumbai........................ 10,000
Cases of shooting and violence in New Orleans ... Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in Mumbai........... NONE
Time taken for US army to reach New Orleans ................. 48 hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach Mumbai...12 hours
Status after 48 hours...New Orleans was still waiting for relief, army and
electricity
Status after 48 hours...Mumbai was back on its feet and ! it was business as
usual
And India is a third world country.
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Originally Posted by jakethesnake' date='Sep 30 2005, 06:45 PM
I don't want to sound like I am jumping in a bandwagon here, but it really is a very interesting article.? After reading this e-mail this morning, I was thinking likewise:
Subject: FW: Mumbai Vs New Orleans
Rain in New Orleans due to hurricane Katrina... 18.0 inches
Rain in Mumbai (July 27th)...................................... 37.1 inches
Population of New Orleans... 484,674
Population of Mumbai.... 12,622,500
Deaths in New Orleans within 48 hours of Katrina...100
Deaths in Mumbai within 48hours of rain..................... 37.
Number of people to be evacuated in New Orleans... entire city
Number of people evacuated in Mumbai........................ 10,000
Cases of shooting and violence in New Orleans ... Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in Mumbai........... NONE
Time taken for US army to reach New Orleans ................. 48 hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach Mumbai...12 hours
Status after 48 hours...New Orleans was still waiting for relief, army and
electricity
Status after 48 hours...Mumbai was back on its feet and ! it was business as
usual
And India is a third world country.
Rain in New Orleans due to hurricane Katrina... 18.0 inches
Rain in Mumbai (July 27th)...................................... 37.1 inches
Population of New Orleans... 484,674
Population of Mumbai.... 12,622,500
Deaths in New Orleans within 48 hours of Katrina...100
Deaths in Mumbai within 48hours of rain..................... 37.
Number of people to be evacuated in New Orleans... entire city
Number of people evacuated in Mumbai........................ 10,000
Cases of shooting and violence in New Orleans ... Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in Mumbai........... NONE
Time taken for US army to reach New Orleans ................. 48 hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach Mumbai...12 hours
Status after 48 hours...New Orleans was still waiting for relief, army and
electricity
Status after 48 hours...Mumbai was back on its feet and ! it was business as
usual
And India is a third world country.
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WOW! thats intresting and an eye opener!How come i never heard of the rain in mumbai?
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you never heard of it because it is the annual monsoon in India, happens every year. They are used to it, the response it pretty much the same every year, and the city is not below sea level so that the water level reached nearly 20 ft in residential areas. Makes for interesting numbers though. Reminds me of a book my father gave me years ago entitled "How to Lie With Statistics".
As for the original story on this thread, all I can say, as a former resident of New Orleans is look at the response to Katrina and the the response to Rita. You don't hear about folks in southwestern Louisiana and southeast Texas crying for aid. They are back in reuilding their communities following Rita...
As for the original story on this thread, all I can say, as a former resident of New Orleans is look at the response to Katrina and the the response to Rita. You don't hear about folks in southwestern Louisiana and southeast Texas crying for aid. They are back in reuilding their communities following Rita...
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Unbelieveable.
Fact: No hurricane in 1927, it was the Great Mississippi Flood caused by rainfall starting in 1926!! It badly affected half a dozen states, and was the worst flood in US history until Katrina (I wouldn't personally count it as a flood, unlike the insurance co.s).
Fact: The US military has not always been the most powerful force on earth. In 1927, the army was barely in a position to protect our own borders. It was incapable of projecting power around the world in the manner of today, let alone able to significantly improve the Mississippi situation. I rather suspect however, that the army of 1927 would still have got to the city a tad faster than our Army of One, but maybe not faster than Wal-Mart did.
Fact: In 1927, news of the flood in the South arrived by telegraph. The public got it's news from newspapers (except for some who could afford radios the cost as much as a car). Photographs would have taken several days to a week or more to get to each newspaper, and the distribution of newspapers was hardly instant. In other words, news didn't travel fast, certainly not fast enough for government to initiate an effective, direct, immediate and massive response. No internet, no 24x7 CNN, no Doppler 3000, no flickr.com, and most definitely no live Presidential disaster tours = no public outcry or backlash. Yet, after the crisis, government did respond with massive rebuilding and flood-control programs, which set the precident for direct federal aid in the event of disasters in the future.
Fact: 90% if the stuff that ends up in your inbox is crap.
Fact: No hurricane in 1927, it was the Great Mississippi Flood caused by rainfall starting in 1926!! It badly affected half a dozen states, and was the worst flood in US history until Katrina (I wouldn't personally count it as a flood, unlike the insurance co.s).
Fact: The US military has not always been the most powerful force on earth. In 1927, the army was barely in a position to protect our own borders. It was incapable of projecting power around the world in the manner of today, let alone able to significantly improve the Mississippi situation. I rather suspect however, that the army of 1927 would still have got to the city a tad faster than our Army of One, but maybe not faster than Wal-Mart did.
Fact: In 1927, news of the flood in the South arrived by telegraph. The public got it's news from newspapers (except for some who could afford radios the cost as much as a car). Photographs would have taken several days to a week or more to get to each newspaper, and the distribution of newspapers was hardly instant. In other words, news didn't travel fast, certainly not fast enough for government to initiate an effective, direct, immediate and massive response. No internet, no 24x7 CNN, no Doppler 3000, no flickr.com, and most definitely no live Presidential disaster tours = no public outcry or backlash. Yet, after the crisis, government did respond with massive rebuilding and flood-control programs, which set the precident for direct federal aid in the event of disasters in the future.
Fact: 90% if the stuff that ends up in your inbox is crap.
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='Oct 1 2005, 03:09 AM
Ok I got this in an e-mail and thought it was an interesting way of looking at things. Open up your mind and dont get mad if you disagree... post your opinions, no arguments, no debate, just read others opinions.?
In 1927, a major unnamed hurricane struck the city of New Orleans.
It was actually more powerful than Katrina. The scope of damage
was much more severe because this particular hurricane actually hit
the city. Katrina missed it by 25 miles.
The interesting difference is the response the government gave in
1927 to those hurricane refugees, compared to the refugees of Katrina, err-
I meant "survivors" ---(sorry Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).
How much aid did the government dispense at that time? Zero, nada,
not one dime. And you know how much aid the army offered? The only
aid from the army came in the form of loaning the city of New Orleans
tents and camp stoves. Ironically, later, the army sued the city for
reimbursement. So what was the big difference here?
It was the attitude the people had towards the government at that time,
comparedto the attitude that Katrina's victims have. The 1927 "survivors"
expected nothing from the government. 80 years ago, people understood
that the government was there to "protect life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness." Today, Americans expect the government to "provide
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That's a major difference.
And now, a week later, when the government failed on all three levels
of local, state, and federal to provide for their needs, Americans
were sorely disappointed
Reverend Jackson and reverend Sharpton spend their opportunities
arguingabout semantics."They shouldn't be called refugees, they should
be called survivors" Unfortunately, they missed the boat. It was a
perfect opportunity to deliver a very basic message to their people.
Fact, if you are poor and uneducated in America, this is what happens.
Fact, if you depend on the government, you will be sorely disappointed.
Fact, if you are poor in America, there is no reason for you to be
uneducated. Its free! 12 grades. And if you really apply yourself,
there is enough grants and assistance out there for higher education,
which will raise you above the poverty level. And no longer will you
depend on the government and be disappointed. Its unfortunate that this
lesson will be missed by most of the "survivors".
A couple of other points should be brought to light. G. W. has asked
the congress for 50 billion dollars worth of aid for the "survivors"
and clean up of the city. Interesting isn't it? one million people
displaced and out of work in that city, sitting all day in shelters,
waiting for the next handout. Of course, the thought never occured to
anyone that just maybe, "hey, we should give all these folks jobs filling
sand bags to plug the levees and clearing trees." (Wonder how many of
them would want government aid if they had to work for it?)
And finally, they haven't hardly begun the task of picking up dead
bodies, and already the finger pointing has started. The congressional
hearings and probes will go forever. Millions will be spent on a wasted
diatribe of a bipartisan "witch hunting expedition"- all of which will
be nonsense. If you're a democrat, you are going to blame the
president. If you are a republican, you are going to blame the
mayor and the governor. This is another case in point of how the
government will once again fail its people, they could have spent the
millions educating the poor and misplaced citizens of New Orleans so
that they could go out and get a new and better life, instead of wasting
it on useless blame investigations.
In 1927, a major unnamed hurricane struck the city of New Orleans.
It was actually more powerful than Katrina. The scope of damage
was much more severe because this particular hurricane actually hit
the city. Katrina missed it by 25 miles.
The interesting difference is the response the government gave in
1927 to those hurricane refugees, compared to the refugees of Katrina, err-
I meant "survivors" ---(sorry Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).
How much aid did the government dispense at that time? Zero, nada,
not one dime. And you know how much aid the army offered? The only
aid from the army came in the form of loaning the city of New Orleans
tents and camp stoves. Ironically, later, the army sued the city for
reimbursement. So what was the big difference here?
It was the attitude the people had towards the government at that time,
comparedto the attitude that Katrina's victims have. The 1927 "survivors"
expected nothing from the government. 80 years ago, people understood
that the government was there to "protect life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness." Today, Americans expect the government to "provide
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That's a major difference.
And now, a week later, when the government failed on all three levels
of local, state, and federal to provide for their needs, Americans
were sorely disappointed
Reverend Jackson and reverend Sharpton spend their opportunities
arguingabout semantics."They shouldn't be called refugees, they should
be called survivors" Unfortunately, they missed the boat. It was a
perfect opportunity to deliver a very basic message to their people.
Fact, if you are poor and uneducated in America, this is what happens.
Fact, if you depend on the government, you will be sorely disappointed.
Fact, if you are poor in America, there is no reason for you to be
uneducated. Its free! 12 grades. And if you really apply yourself,
there is enough grants and assistance out there for higher education,
which will raise you above the poverty level. And no longer will you
depend on the government and be disappointed. Its unfortunate that this
lesson will be missed by most of the "survivors".
A couple of other points should be brought to light. G. W. has asked
the congress for 50 billion dollars worth of aid for the "survivors"
and clean up of the city. Interesting isn't it? one million people
displaced and out of work in that city, sitting all day in shelters,
waiting for the next handout. Of course, the thought never occured to
anyone that just maybe, "hey, we should give all these folks jobs filling
sand bags to plug the levees and clearing trees." (Wonder how many of
them would want government aid if they had to work for it?)
And finally, they haven't hardly begun the task of picking up dead
bodies, and already the finger pointing has started. The congressional
hearings and probes will go forever. Millions will be spent on a wasted
diatribe of a bipartisan "witch hunting expedition"- all of which will
be nonsense. If you're a democrat, you are going to blame the
president. If you are a republican, you are going to blame the
mayor and the governor. This is another case in point of how the
government will once again fail its people, they could have spent the
millions educating the poor and misplaced citizens of New Orleans so
that they could go out and get a new and better life, instead of wasting
it on useless blame investigations.
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THIS SO RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
And think about this. People expect to be GIVEN stuff. No one is responsible for their own actions. "Come save me....", "make me smart", "give me an education" "GIMME!"- even though like the write up says- it's free in public schools.
President Bush and the federal government offered help prior to the storm. They asked Mayor Nagin and GOV Blanco to sign a memo for the feds to send troops and supplies but they BOTH declined. They felt that it would make them LOOK BAD that the Feds would have to bail them out. When the shit hit the fan, THEY were not responsible. "The Feds left them out in the wind". No one took responsibility for their actions. How many people just sat there and waited to be rescued. And of course, the black politicians turned it into a race issue. There were poor whites and cajuns there as well. What happened to those people??
Yeah, it was a tragedy, and many people who could not help themselves died, but picture after picture show able-bodied people being rescued. Why weren't THEY helping instead of adding to the problem? Why are they complaining now?
In an wider scope, look at the headlines today - NO ONE is responsible for their actions. That stupid woman England: "I was smitten by my boyfriend and wanted to please him, that's why I ABUSED the prisoners" Yeah, right, she looked really smug with a cigarette hanging from her mouth and a leash in her hand. She didn't look smitten then. She looked like she was having fun, boys and girls. They were all having a hoot of a time.
That stupid woman who burned herself with McD's coffee years back. She sued and WON!!! How stupid can you be??? That said a lot for the american public who didn't say to her "you stupid woman, you screwed up. You DRINK coffee, not wear it" All this bull about McD had been warned the the coffee was too hot - BALLS!! Can I sue them now 'cause my coffee is lukewarm??? - again, it goes back to TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.
Had I been a lawyer and had been involved in the McD case with the woman, I would have countersued for "improper use of a food item" or "improper use of product" and seeen that run its course. Let the American public ponder that one for while.
It seems lately (and for a long time) Americans are no longer responsible for whatever it is they do and the public as a whole approve of this because they are the problem. If I fall and trip in front of your house - I'm a dummy. I wouldn't sue you because you left a pebble on the drive. I SHOUD HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT I WAS DOING, SORRY.
When I lived in Miramar FL, a woman sued the city because she tripped on a tree root on a public park - AND SHE WON.
Anyways, I'm gettin' all worked up here. We have lost our common sense, and lost ALL personal responsibility. Someone else is always at fault for the asinine crap we do to ourselves and to others.
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Originally Posted by santiago fonseca' date='Oct 2 2005, 03:19 AM
[quote name='EBMCS03' date='Oct 1 2005, 03:09 AM']Ok I got this in an e-mail and thought it was an interesting way of looking at things. Open up your mind and dont get mad if you disagree... post your opinions, no arguments, no debate, just read others opinions.?
In 1927, a major unnamed hurricane struck the city of New Orleans.
It was actually more powerful than Katrina. The scope of damage
was much more severe because this particular hurricane actually hit
the city. Katrina missed it by 25 miles.
The interesting difference is the response the government gave in
1927 to those hurricane refugees, compared to the refugees of Katrina, err-
I meant "survivors" ---(sorry Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).
How much aid did the government dispense at that time? Zero, nada,
not one dime. And you know how much aid the army offered? The only
aid from the army came in the form of loaning the city of New Orleans
tents and camp stoves. Ironically, later, the army sued the city for
reimbursement. So what was the big difference here?
It was the attitude the people had towards the government at that time,
comparedto the attitude that Katrina's victims have. The 1927 "survivors"
expected nothing from the government. 80 years ago, people understood
that the government was there to "protect life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness." Today, Americans expect the government to "provide
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That's a major difference.
And now, a week later, when the government failed on all three levels
of local, state, and federal to provide for their needs, Americans
were sorely disappointed
Reverend Jackson and reverend Sharpton spend their opportunities
arguingabout semantics."They shouldn't be called refugees, they should
be called survivors" Unfortunately, they missed the boat. It was a
perfect opportunity to deliver a very basic message to their people.
Fact, if you are poor and uneducated in America, this is what happens.
Fact, if you depend on the government, you will be sorely disappointed.
Fact, if you are poor in America, there is no reason for you to be
uneducated. Its free! 12 grades. And if you really apply yourself,
there is enough grants and assistance out there for higher education,
which will raise you above the poverty level. And no longer will you
depend on the government and be disappointed. Its unfortunate that this
lesson will be missed by most of the "survivors".
A couple of other points should be brought to light. G. W. has asked
the congress for 50 billion dollars worth of aid for the "survivors"
and clean up of the city. Interesting isn't it? one million people
displaced and out of work in that city, sitting all day in shelters,
waiting for the next handout. Of course, the thought never occured to
anyone that just maybe, "hey, we should give all these folks jobs filling
sand bags to plug the levees and clearing trees." (Wonder how many of
them would want government aid if they had to work for it?)
And finally, they haven't hardly begun the task of picking up dead
bodies, and already the finger pointing has started. The congressional
hearings and probes will go forever. Millions will be spent on a wasted
diatribe of a bipartisan "witch hunting expedition"- all of which will
be nonsense. If you're a democrat, you are going to blame the
president. If you are a republican, you are going to blame the
mayor and the governor. This is another case in point of how the
government will once again fail its people, they could have spent the
millions educating the poor and misplaced citizens of New Orleans so
that they could go out and get a new and better life, instead of wasting
it on useless blame investigations.
In 1927, a major unnamed hurricane struck the city of New Orleans.
It was actually more powerful than Katrina. The scope of damage
was much more severe because this particular hurricane actually hit
the city. Katrina missed it by 25 miles.
The interesting difference is the response the government gave in
1927 to those hurricane refugees, compared to the refugees of Katrina, err-
I meant "survivors" ---(sorry Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).
How much aid did the government dispense at that time? Zero, nada,
not one dime. And you know how much aid the army offered? The only
aid from the army came in the form of loaning the city of New Orleans
tents and camp stoves. Ironically, later, the army sued the city for
reimbursement. So what was the big difference here?
It was the attitude the people had towards the government at that time,
comparedto the attitude that Katrina's victims have. The 1927 "survivors"
expected nothing from the government. 80 years ago, people understood
that the government was there to "protect life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness." Today, Americans expect the government to "provide
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." That's a major difference.
And now, a week later, when the government failed on all three levels
of local, state, and federal to provide for their needs, Americans
were sorely disappointed
Reverend Jackson and reverend Sharpton spend their opportunities
arguingabout semantics."They shouldn't be called refugees, they should
be called survivors" Unfortunately, they missed the boat. It was a
perfect opportunity to deliver a very basic message to their people.
Fact, if you are poor and uneducated in America, this is what happens.
Fact, if you depend on the government, you will be sorely disappointed.
Fact, if you are poor in America, there is no reason for you to be
uneducated. Its free! 12 grades. And if you really apply yourself,
there is enough grants and assistance out there for higher education,
which will raise you above the poverty level. And no longer will you
depend on the government and be disappointed. Its unfortunate that this
lesson will be missed by most of the "survivors".
A couple of other points should be brought to light. G. W. has asked
the congress for 50 billion dollars worth of aid for the "survivors"
and clean up of the city. Interesting isn't it? one million people
displaced and out of work in that city, sitting all day in shelters,
waiting for the next handout. Of course, the thought never occured to
anyone that just maybe, "hey, we should give all these folks jobs filling
sand bags to plug the levees and clearing trees." (Wonder how many of
them would want government aid if they had to work for it?)
And finally, they haven't hardly begun the task of picking up dead
bodies, and already the finger pointing has started. The congressional
hearings and probes will go forever. Millions will be spent on a wasted
diatribe of a bipartisan "witch hunting expedition"- all of which will
be nonsense. If you're a democrat, you are going to blame the
president. If you are a republican, you are going to blame the
mayor and the governor. This is another case in point of how the
government will once again fail its people, they could have spent the
millions educating the poor and misplaced citizens of New Orleans so
that they could go out and get a new and better life, instead of wasting
it on useless blame investigations.
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THIS SO RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
And think about this. People expect to be GIVEN stuff. No one is responsible for their own actions. "Come save me....", "make me smart", "give me an education" "GIMME!"- even though like the write up says- it's free in public schools.
President Bush and the federal government offered help prior to the storm. They asked Mayor Nagin and GOV Blanco to sign a memo for the feds to send troops and supplies but they BOTH declined. They felt that it would make them LOOK BAD that the Feds would have to bail them out. When the shit hit the fan, THEY were not responsible. "The Feds left them out in the wind". No one took responsibility for their actions. How many people just sat there and waited to be rescued. And of course, the black politicians turned it into a race issue. There were poor whites and cajuns there as well. What happened to those people??
Yeah, it was a tragedy, and many people who could not help themselves died, but picture after picture show able-bodied people being rescued. Why weren't THEY helping instead of adding to the problem? Why are they complaining now?
In an wider scope, look at the headlines today - NO ONE is responsible for their actions. That stupid woman England: "I was smitten by my boyfriend and wanted to please him, that's why I ABUSED the prisoners" Yeah, right, she looked really smug with a cigarette hanging from her mouth and a leash in her hand. She didn't look smitten then. She looked like she was having fun, boys and girls. They were all having a hoot of a time.
That stupid woman who burned herself with McD's coffee years back. She sued and WON!!! How stupid can you be??? That said a lot for the american public who didn't say to her "you stupid woman, you screwed up. You DRINK coffee, not wear it" All this bull about McD had been warned the the coffee was too hot - BALLS!! Can I sue them now 'cause my coffee is lukewarm??? - again, it goes back to TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.
Had I been a lawyer and had been involved in the McD case with the woman, I would have countersued for "improper use of a food item" or "improper use of product" and seeen that run its course. Let the American public ponder that one for while.
It seems lately (and for a long time) Americans are no longer responsible for whatever it is they do and the public as a whole approve of this because they are the problem. If I fall and trip in front of your house - I'm a dummy. I wouldn't sue you because you left a pebble on the drive. I SHOUD HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT I WAS DOING, SORRY.
When I lived in Miramar FL, a woman sued the city because she tripped on a tree root on a public park - AND SHE WON.
Anyways, I'm gettin' all worked up here. We have lost our common sense, and lost ALL personal responsibility. Someone else is always at fault for the asinine crap we do to ourselves and to others.
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[/quote]Historically, every ruling empired ended because of some human error. Hopefully, the "gimme" society won't be our ultimate shortcoming.
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Is the 'gimme' society fueled by the 'take it' politicians?
They raise taxes and in return promise more. So perhaps the expectation of the electorate is to get something delivered back? Reality it is so they can feed their ever increasing power trip.
I believe that pretty well everybody WOULD take account for their own actions, but for being told by politicians its something they will do.
In England, we currently have somethng like 1 in every 4 people employed in government and quasi governtment. Funded by the rest of us. From tax. A tax burden ever increasing.
At what point does it burst? We are already on 68%.
75%? 80%? 90%?
If the government is there for protection - let it protect. If it there just to fuel the egos of Politicians, than it needs looking at carefully.
They raise taxes and in return promise more. So perhaps the expectation of the electorate is to get something delivered back? Reality it is so they can feed their ever increasing power trip.
I believe that pretty well everybody WOULD take account for their own actions, but for being told by politicians its something they will do.
In England, we currently have somethng like 1 in every 4 people employed in government and quasi governtment. Funded by the rest of us. From tax. A tax burden ever increasing.
At what point does it burst? We are already on 68%.
75%? 80%? 90%?
If the government is there for protection - let it protect. If it there just to fuel the egos of Politicians, than it needs looking at carefully.