This is a sad day for America
03-29-2009, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by z06bigbird' post='826934' date='Mar 25 2009, 11:00 PM
I don't know about you, but I pay a portion of the unemployment, social security, medicare, and medicaid taxes for everybody--you, me, and all my fellow Americans. When smokers have heart attacks or go to long term care facilities (including nursing homes), the services are not for free.
If those people are not eligible for these benefits, all of our health insurance premiums go up annually. Last few years, group health insurance premiums have been going up at the rate of 10% to 20%. Americans are actually getting healthier and living longer. We, however, are paying for those who do not take care of themselves.
Some insurance companies charge non-smokers, and non-overweight emploees a lower health insurance premium.
Take a look at your paycheck stub--under deductions--FICA, FUTA, Title XIX, Title XX, and the employer's deductions. In addition to us paying for these benefits for others, our employer also pays a significant portion. e. g., employer pays .001 of gross payroll for unemployment, plus other levies; employer matches what you pay for Title XIX. (This para is a generalization, and the nomenclature and percentages are ballpark descriptions and figures.)
Please tell us how you avoid paying for the health care for patients with chronic health problems. We would all like to know so that we can avoid these payments also.
We await your speedy response.
If those people are not eligible for these benefits, all of our health insurance premiums go up annually. Last few years, group health insurance premiums have been going up at the rate of 10% to 20%. Americans are actually getting healthier and living longer. We, however, are paying for those who do not take care of themselves.
Some insurance companies charge non-smokers, and non-overweight emploees a lower health insurance premium.
Take a look at your paycheck stub--under deductions--FICA, FUTA, Title XIX, Title XX, and the employer's deductions. In addition to us paying for these benefits for others, our employer also pays a significant portion. e. g., employer pays .001 of gross payroll for unemployment, plus other levies; employer matches what you pay for Title XIX. (This para is a generalization, and the nomenclature and percentages are ballpark descriptions and figures.)
Please tell us how you avoid paying for the health care for patients with chronic health problems. We would all like to know so that we can avoid these payments also.
We await your speedy response.
Its a free country, people make choices and realize the consequences of their actions. It called life...
03-29-2009, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by z06bigbird' post='826934' date='Mar 25 2009, 11:00 PM
I don't know about you, but I pay a portion of the unemployment, social security, medicare, and medicaid taxes for everybody--you, me, and all my fellow Americans. When smokers have heart attacks or go to long term care facilities (including nursing homes), the services are not for free.
If those people are not eligible for these benefits, all of our health insurance premiums go up annually. Last few years, group health insurance premiums have been going up at the rate of 10% to 20%. Americans are actually getting healthier and living longer. We, however, are paying for those who do not take care of themselves.
Some insurance companies charge non-smokers, and non-overweight emploees a lower health insurance premium.
Take a look at your paycheck stub--under deductions--FICA, FUTA, Title XIX, Title XX, and the employer's deductions. In addition to us paying for these benefits for others, our employer also pays a significant portion. e. g., employer pays .001 of gross payroll for unemployment, plus other levies; employer matches what you pay for Title XIX. (This para is a generalization, and the nomenclature and percentages are ballpark descriptions and figures.)
Please tell us how you avoid paying for the health care for patients with chronic health problems. We would all like to know so that we can avoid these payments also.
We await your speedy response.
If those people are not eligible for these benefits, all of our health insurance premiums go up annually. Last few years, group health insurance premiums have been going up at the rate of 10% to 20%. Americans are actually getting healthier and living longer. We, however, are paying for those who do not take care of themselves.
Some insurance companies charge non-smokers, and non-overweight emploees a lower health insurance premium.
Take a look at your paycheck stub--under deductions--FICA, FUTA, Title XIX, Title XX, and the employer's deductions. In addition to us paying for these benefits for others, our employer also pays a significant portion. e. g., employer pays .001 of gross payroll for unemployment, plus other levies; employer matches what you pay for Title XIX. (This para is a generalization, and the nomenclature and percentages are ballpark descriptions and figures.)
Please tell us how you avoid paying for the health care for patients with chronic health problems. We would all like to know so that we can avoid these payments also.
We await your speedy response.
The government should regulate what we eat. So all meat should be banned or rationed. People should not be allowed to buy more than 8 oz of red meat a week.
Sugar is bad too. People should be required to weigh in at the grocery store before being allowed to purchase soda, they must also prove, weekly, that their kids are not obese.
Cigarettes obviously should be illegal but alcohol kills thousands, that has to go as well.
But wait exercise helps prevent health care costs, it should be mandatory. Anyone who doesn't show up at the local school for morning exercise should be sent to a labor camp to get in shape.
See where this is going...
03-29-2009, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuck' post='827309' date='Mar 26 2009, 01:08 PM
It's really a form of Darwin's "Natural Selection", the smart guy would NOT eat that and therefore lives longer to pass on his genetics etc.! 
03-30-2009, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mhs525' post='829678' date='Mar 29 2009, 10:53 AM
On second though maybe you are right.
The government should regulate what we eat. So all meat should be banned or rationed. People should not be allowed to buy more than 8 oz of red meat a week.
Sugar is bad too. People should be required to weigh in at the grocery store before being allowed to purchase soda, they must also prove, weekly, that their kids are not obese.
Cigarettes obviously should be illegal but alcohol kills thousands, that has to go as well.
But wait exercise helps prevent health care costs, it should be mandatory. Anyone who doesn't show up at the local school for morning exercise should be sent to a labor camp to get in shape.
See where this is going...
The government should regulate what we eat. So all meat should be banned or rationed. People should not be allowed to buy more than 8 oz of red meat a week.
Sugar is bad too. People should be required to weigh in at the grocery store before being allowed to purchase soda, they must also prove, weekly, that their kids are not obese.
Cigarettes obviously should be illegal but alcohol kills thousands, that has to go as well.
But wait exercise helps prevent health care costs, it should be mandatory. Anyone who doesn't show up at the local school for morning exercise should be sent to a labor camp to get in shape.
See where this is going...
03-30-2009, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mhs525' post='829674' date='Mar 29 2009, 10:50 AM
Simple, these people, smokers, obese people, die early. Any health care cost is offset by lower social security costs beause these folks aren't collecting in their 80's
Its a free country, people make choices and realize the consequences of their actions. It called life...
Its a free country, people make choices and realize the consequences of their actions. It called life...
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