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Old 01-09-2007 | 11:12 AM
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What tools...I am sure there also are big signs saying not to drive through the barriers or tailgate the busses.
Old 01-09-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nickolas_g' post='375835' date='Jan 9 2007, 08:12 PM
What tools...I am sure there also are big signs saying not to drive through the barriers or tailgate the busses.
There are. Very evident as "wrong way"/"no entry" LED signs in the first 10 seconds of the film, where you see the red car turning right at the roundabout.
Old 01-09-2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='375868' date='Jan 10 2007, 01:00 AM
There are. Very evident as "wrong way"/"no entry" LED signs in the first 10 seconds of the film, where you see the red car turning right at the roundabout.
Speaking about details have you seen how the airbags deploy in the suv, or how the guy hits the windshield with the head at the end?!
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That system is a recipe for disaster - I can't believe it goes up when a car has passed halfway over it.
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Some of the comments here are surprisingly immature. It looked like some small children were in the back of the Citroen MPV - they could have been seriously hurt in that incident. Despite the warnings, if you are a) unfamilar with the traffic flows or b) driving behind a large vehicle it is perfectly possible to miss the signs and get caught up like this. I agree with LowOrbit -that's a ridiculous and dangerous traffic control measure by any stretch of the imagination.
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That could quite be the worst thing I have ever seen lol.

To anyone that has those traffic control measures in their country. Are you just shit out of luck if your car gets hit by those lol, I cant even begin to imagine what that does to the undercarriage of the cars... that video makes me sad :'(
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='375889
Some of the comments here are surprisingly immature. It looked like some small children were in the back of the Citroen MPV - they could have been seriously hurt in that incident. Despite the warnings, if you are a) unfamilar with the traffic flows or b) driving behind a large vehicle it is perfectly possible to miss the signs and get caught up like this. I agree with LowOrbit -that's a ridiculous and dangerous traffic control measure by any stretch of the imagination.
mmm... I'd like to suspend judgment on that. The first clip (with the silver car) shows that clearly the driver is trying it on - perfectly aware of the poles and that buses and public service vehicles can open them. We don't know what sort of warning is displayed before the restricted area in addition to the No Entry LED signs, but having seen similar stuff in operation in other places I doubt there is no other signage.

At any rate, let's assume that there are no poles coming up, but there is simply a normal metal No Entry sign. Why would a driver EVER be justified if he entered the road in that situation? If you are unfamiliar with traffic flows in an area, then slow down and read the signs. Following the vehicle in front is no excuse either.

Given that people believe they are smarter than the law - and all three vehicles caught in the mess seem to me as if they are trying to beat the system - perhaps enforcing it causing direct, painful consequences for the lawbreakers is the only way?
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='376018' date='Jan 9 2007, 04:47 PM
Given that people believe they are smarter than the law - and all three vehicles caught in the mess seem to me as if they are trying to beat the system - perhaps enforcing it causing direct, painful consequences for the lawbreakers is the only way?
I do agree with the majority of your post, and drivers are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but is a traffic enforcement measure with the direct potential to injure, maim or perhaps even kill worth the risk?? Anticipating the likely lunacy of some road users, and seeing how quickly that barrier rises out of the street after the authorized vehicle has passed, it's not hard to work out what's going to happen... Whatever we may want to do to the parents, it really doesn't take much of an impact to injure a child. There are easily enough cameras around in UK high streets that the driver could be punished in other ways - much as the taxi or bus lanes are enforced in and around London.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='376110' date='Jan 10 2007, 11:32 AM
I do agree with the majority of your post, and drivers are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but is a traffic enforcement measure with the direct potential to injure, maim or perhaps even kill worth the risk?? Anticipating the likely lunacy of some road users, and seeing how quickly that barrier rises out of the street after the authorized vehicle has passed, it's not hard to work out what's going to happen... Whatever we may want to do to the parents, it really doesn't take much of an impact to injure a child. There are easily enough cameras around in UK high streets that the driver could be punished in other ways - much as the taxi or bus lanes are enforced in and around London.
I agree with your point as those poles clearly come up too fast. Yes those people in the three cars that are trying to beat the system should deserve some kind of punishment, there is a camera there that is filiming the action so I think sending them a ticket afterward shouldn't be too much trouble. Enforcing it causing direct, painful consequences for the lawbreakers is so uncivilized, that's like saying capital punishment is a good thing.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='376110' date='Jan 10 2007, 03:32 AM
I do agree with the majority of your post, and drivers are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but is a traffic enforcement measure with the direct potential to injure, maim or perhaps even kill worth the risk?? Anticipating the likely lunacy of some road users, and seeing how quickly that barrier rises out of the street after the authorized vehicle has passed, it's not hard to work out what's going to happen... Whatever we may want to do to the parents, it really doesn't take much of an impact to injure a child. There are easily enough cameras around in UK high streets that the driver could be punished in other ways - much as the taxi or bus lanes are enforced in and around London.
I don't know. I cannot imagine that a camera is more expensive than the "pillars of Hercules" device, so there must be a reason why the traffic management authorities have decided to use a potentially dangerous method. Would deterrence be lower with a camera?

A stinger-type device (like the ones at rent-a-car places in many USA airports) may be another way - at least deflated and shredded tyres will stop you PDQ but will not cause immediate damage to vehicle occupants.


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