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AlexFW 10-21-2007 09:43 AM

Ferrari won both championship!

:) :) :) :)

Iceman 10-21-2007 10:02 AM

Yep!

Excellent!!!


:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:


I really wanted Hanilton to win it, so that Alonso loses the title "youngest F1 champion ever", but in the end I am very satisfied with Ferrari winning it all!


Congrats from one Iceman to another Iceman. ;)

Well done!

AlexFW 10-21-2007 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Iceman' post='484209' date='Oct 21 2007, 08:02 PM
Congrats from one Iceman to another Iceman. ;)

:lol: :lol:

swajames 10-21-2007 12:10 PM

McLaren didn't cheat. Ferrari and McLaren both had corrupt employees. Ron Dennis himself was the one who, once the "new" evidence was uncovered (as soon as Alonso allegedly suggested that he knew aspects of the Ferrari data), turned over everything to the FIA . As a team, McLaren behaved impeccably, they did the right thing and paid a high price. I don't believe Ron knew much about this, and Alonso, in my view, dropped him in it - just as Ron will drop Alonso for next year.

AlexFW 10-21-2007 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by swajames' post='484241' date='Oct 21 2007, 10:10 PM
McLaren didn't cheat. Ferrari and McLaren both had corrupt employees.

I don't know in UK, but here the entrepreneur is responsible for his employees .

Anyway, too many cheats from McLaren this season, not only the spy story .

Bokke 10-21-2007 02:35 PM

Tough weekend for the UK - first loose the World Cup then Hamiliton chokes! Congrats Kimi - great win - you deserve it. I would guess the most satified person was Alonso! :thumbsup:

swajames 10-21-2007 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='484271' date='Oct 21 2007, 02:45 PM
I don't know in UK, but here the entrepreneur is responsible for his employees .

Anyway, too many cheats from McLaren this season, not only the spy story .

So would you care to explain how Ferrari got off the hook - it appears that it was their corrupt employee that stole the data in the first instance? Perhaps this "responsibility" thing works a little different in Italy :thumbsup:

madoon 10-21-2007 02:50 PM

yea.. Mclaren are the cheaters this year. they were accused twice. Its good that KIMI won, i really think the best driver won, espically the way alonso and hamilton have been acting...
but seems the championship is still in question,,.,,
BMW and williams are under a fuel invistigation.. if they are disqaulified hamilton wins the championship...
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...7/10/7023.html
looks like the championship battle is still alive, atleast untill that result clears up...

madoon 10-21-2007 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by swajames' post='484286' date='Oct 22 2007, 01:38 AM
So would you care to explain how Ferrari got off the hook - it appears that it was their corrupt employee that stole the data in the first instance? Perhaps this "responsibility" thing works a little different in Italy :thumbsup:

ferrari got off the hook because they did not have 780 pages of mclaren documents....

swajames 10-21-2007 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by madoon' post='484289' date='Oct 21 2007, 03:52 PM
ferrari got off the hook because they did not have 780 pages of mclaren documents....

Which, in case you failed to notice first time around, were stolen by a Ferrari employee and whose existence was not known to McLaren management until after the initial hearing.


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