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Old 03-27-2009, 09:37 AM
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Cool Paints and Reflective Glazing Draft Proposal
February 18, 2009

Automotive Coating Reflectivity Standards.

(a) The opaque surfaces of new passenger cars, light-duty trucks, and medium duty vehicles less than or equal to 10,000 pounds must reflect at least 20 percent of the impinging direct solar energy (Rds > 20%).

(1) From 2012 to 2015 model years, at least one third of the vehicle manufacturer?s color palette must comply with paragraph (a).

(2) For 2016 and subsequent model years, the vehicle manufacturer?s entire color palette must comply with paragraph (a), except as specified in paragraph (b).


(3) Opaque surface materials not painted or coated, such as non-metal convertible tops, must also meet this reflectivity standard.

(4) Direct solar reflectance shall be determined using American Society of Testing and Materials Method E903, dated xx/xx/xxxx or by an alternate method approved in advance by the Executive Officer.
(b) A manufacturer who paints or coats the roof of the vehicle with a paint or coating system that achieves an Rds of > 50 percent (> 50%) need not utilize a solar reflective paint or coating system on the balance of the vehicle.

? Compliance with this subarticle does not exempt covered entities from complying with any other regulations or statutes including but not limited to those pertaining to hazardous substances or volatile organic compound requirements for paint or painting operations.

(d) Exemptions. The following are excluded from the direct solar energy reflectance standard for opaque surfaces in paragraph (a).

(1) Bumpers/fascias, cladding, side view mirrors, lenses, and cosmetic details such as spoilers.
(2) The bed, inside and out, of non-refrigerated pick-up trucks.
(3) Custom colors in volumes of no more than 500 cars per given custom color per year.
(4) Graphic designs, such as logos, letters, numbers and other graphics, applied to a compliant painted or coated surface, with or without the use of a template.


.....and this is the .pdf of the most recent public workshop on 3/12/09.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/cool-paints/final...tation31209.pdf


No mention of 'banning' of current black cars and it's not really about specific colors as far as I can tell......but if you prefer to rant & rave.......
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='828313' date='Mar 27 2009, 12:37 PM
Cool Paints and Reflective Glazing Draft Proposal
February 18, 2009

Automotive Coating Reflectivity Standards.

(a) The opaque surfaces of new passenger cars, light-duty trucks, and medium duty vehicles less than or equal to 10,000 pounds must reflect at least 20 percent of the impinging direct solar energy (Rds > 20%).

(1) From 2012 to 2015 model years, at least one third of the vehicle manufacturer?s color palette must comply with paragraph (a).

(2) For 2016 and subsequent model years, the vehicle manufacturer?s entire color palette must comply with paragraph (a), except as specified in paragraph (b).


(3) Opaque surface materials not painted or coated, such as non-metal convertible tops, must also meet this reflectivity standard.

(4) Direct solar reflectance shall be determined using American Society of Testing and Materials Method E903, dated xx/xx/xxxx or by an alternate method approved in advance by the Executive Officer.
(b) A manufacturer who paints or coats the roof of the vehicle with a paint or coating system that achieves an Rds of > 50 percent (> 50%) need not utilize a solar reflective paint or coating system on the balance of the vehicle.

? Compliance with this subarticle does not exempt covered entities from complying with any other regulations or statutes including but not limited to those pertaining to hazardous substances or volatile organic compound requirements for paint or painting operations.

(d) Exemptions. The following are excluded from the direct solar energy reflectance standard for opaque surfaces in paragraph (a).

(1) Bumpers/fascias, cladding, side view mirrors, lenses, and cosmetic details such as spoilers.
(2) The bed, inside and out, of non-refrigerated pick-up trucks.
(3) Custom colors in volumes of no more than 500 cars per given custom color per year.
(4) Graphic designs, such as logos, letters, numbers and other graphics, applied to a compliant painted or coated surface, with or without the use of a template.


.....and this is the .pdf of the most recent public workshop on 3/12/09.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/cool-paints/final...tation31209.pdf


No mention of 'banning' of current black cars and it's not really about specific colors as far as I can tell......but if you prefer to rant & rave.......
Phil, Heat-reflecting paints for black and other dark colors for automobiles have not been invented yet. So, to meet the 2012-2015 mandate, manufacturers will have to cut Black paint out of their line-ups to meet the guidelines. If heat reflecting paint for automobiles is not invented by 2016, dark colors will have to be eliminated as well by auto manufacturers. They do not have to mention banning black, it is implicit in this socialist bill.

The troubling aspect of this bill is the complete and utter lunacy of politicians in office, right and left. We are losing liberties on a daily basis at an exponential rate, all in the name of Climate Change/Global Warming. Climate Change is now blamed for warming, cooling, weather patterns, storms, floods, droughts...pretty much anything that will help to fast track the socialist agenda. Climate Change/Global Warming is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on mankind. It is being used to gain power, money and to socially engineer our once free country towards socialism.
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='828351' date='Mar 27 2009, 01:24 PM
Phil, Heat-reflecting paints for black and other dark colors for automobiles have not been invented yet. So, to meet the 2012-2015 mandate, manufacturers will have to cut Black paint out of their line-ups to meet the guidelines. If heat reflecting paint for automobiles is not invented by 2016, dark colors will have to be eliminated as well by auto manufacturers. They do not have to mention banning black, it is implicit in this socialist bill.

The troubling aspect of this bill is the complete and utter lunacy of politicians in office, right and left. We are losing liberties on a daily basis at an exponential rate, all in the name of Climate Change/Global Warming. Climate Change is now blamed for warming, cooling, weather patterns, storms, floods, droughts...pretty much anything that will help to fast track the socialist agenda. Climate Change/Global Warming is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on mankind. It is being used to gain power, money and to socially engineer our once free country towards socialism.
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Originally Posted by westcoast550' post='828378' date='Mar 27 2009, 02:55 PM
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSS , take a pill !!
I was just about to say the same thing. I think someone else is posting under John's alias. This couldn't be from Johnny boy. If it is, what a freak!
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Originally Posted by westcoast550' post='828378' date='Mar 27 2009, 01:55 PM
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSS , take a pill !!
I am passionate because I don't want to be forced to drive a tampon like you K.

PS. Can you send me some of your pills?
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='828383' date='Mar 27 2009, 02:02 PM
I am passionate because I don't want to be forced to drive a tampon like you K.

PS. Can you send me some of your pills?

I think you need a suppository John Boy !!
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Originally Posted by westcoast550' post='828385' date='Mar 27 2009, 12:07 PM
I think you need a suppository John Boy !!
John's hot air is causing more global climate change than this damn proposal.

B A N!!
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Originally Posted by westcoast550' post='828385' date='Mar 27 2009, 02:07 PM
I think you need a suppository John Boy !!
New baby...I need some action and some sleep. That's it! I'm going to the strip club!
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='828386' date='Mar 27 2009, 02:09 PM
John is dead on about global climate change and I'm jumping on the...

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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='828395' date='Mar 27 2009, 03:17 PM
That's it! I'm going to the strip club!
I'm coming.


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