"Burquini" Banned in France
08-16-2009, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sdg1871' post='978275' date='Aug 16 2009, 12:26 PM
Freedom of expression stems from the freedoms of speech and association in the constitution. These protections bar the government -- not private citizens -- under certain (but not all) circumstances from supressing speech or free expression.
These protections have no relationship to whether a Muslim husband in the US can tell his wife to wear a burqua.
In our society, there are ways out for women oppressed in a marriage. There are shelters and there are organizations that assist opressed women.
And there is always divorce.
I do not believe it is in the US's interest to forcibly "Westernize" the non-Western world. George Bush tried and failed to do that. That just creates enemies and more terrorists.
What the US shoud be is a beacon of freedom for non-Western nations. Leading by example is better than dictating.
These protections have no relationship to whether a Muslim husband in the US can tell his wife to wear a burqua.
In our society, there are ways out for women oppressed in a marriage. There are shelters and there are organizations that assist opressed women.
And there is always divorce.
I do not believe it is in the US's interest to forcibly "Westernize" the non-Western world. George Bush tried and failed to do that. That just creates enemies and more terrorists.
What the US shoud be is a beacon of freedom for non-Western nations. Leading by example is better than dictating.
08-16-2009, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by russdx' post='978490' date='Aug 16 2009, 04:05 PM
u aint catching me in no speedo lol
crazy ass french lol
crazy ass french lol
Excellent!
08-16-2009, 06:24 PM
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Scott, your two posts above are just great. 
I am not Muslim, but I feel exactly the same way. It is nobody's right to ban people from wearing burquinis, burquas or whatever just as it is nobody's right to force women to wear them. As far as freedoms go, I have seen plenty of Muslim women coming from strong Muslim cultures who are completely westernized, so it's not like women in SA or Qatar, etc., don't really have a choice.
P.S. One little exception was Kemal Ataturk in Turkey, but he did his enforcement for a good cause and he won, so he can't be judged.
I am not Muslim, but I feel exactly the same way. It is nobody's right to ban people from wearing burquinis, burquas or whatever just as it is nobody's right to force women to wear them. As far as freedoms go, I have seen plenty of Muslim women coming from strong Muslim cultures who are completely westernized, so it's not like women in SA or Qatar, etc., don't really have a choice.
P.S. One little exception was Kemal Ataturk in Turkey, but he did his enforcement for a good cause and he won, so he can't be judged.
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