I am fairly confident that BMW manufactures their own batteries, no?

 

I have no idea and I never checked my battery. Anybody else?

 

Eh, wrong answer, there is no auto manufacturer in the world that makes their own batteries. That's like saying "they make their own tires, don't they". Doesn't happen, it may SAY BMW on it, but it isn't actually made by them, it's farmed out to a subcontractor.

 

You have completely misunderstood the nature of a class action lawsuit. One need not prove that everyone who owns a BMW has the same design defect. One need only prove that those who were certified in the class have it.

One need not be an Electrical Engineer to recognize that a $70,000 car should not fail to start unless you drive it one hour per day or more.

 

Tata?

i did word that post incorrectly - it states BMW but we cannot figure out who the "subcontractor" is.

 

Then how do you define the class?

 

The class is: anyone who is money hungry enough to sue

 

Good question, pukka. It is difficult to give a complete answer here. But generally, there is a Class Certification Hearing which determines whether a class exists and whether a class should be certified by the Court. This is in the early part of the case before any substantive discovery takes place. At that time, based on testimony, affidavits, expert testimony, a Court determines whether the class should be certified. Typically, the members of the class must have the same problem. So a Court could define the class as : members whose cars won't start unless they drive them 1 hour per day or more and who have made no modifications to the factory manufactured product and that are 2 years old or newer.

Unlike pjinca, who seems to have a fixation on money, I don't. If I were bringing the class action suit I would ask for the defective design to be fixed. All class action suits do not ask for money.

 

Wow, never heard a litigator say that before. My comment was based on the simple fact that this country is getting waaay too litigious, some things should just be common sense (like the label on the hairdryer "do not use in shower", well if you do that's not a fault of the company, that's Natural Selection - you were too stupid to live). Honestly, not being a lawyer I didn't know that class action suits can result in simply a design fix without monetary compensation. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

How do other auto manufacts deal with the same problem? Dead batteries are the result of the "parastic effect" of electrical equipment in modern cars.

Who knows you might have a world-wide class action. LOL