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05-26-2010, 12:17 AM
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It turns out that my estimate of total US sales to date was actually overly generous.
BMWNA confirms that just 1143 GT have been sold in the US since launch, and also that US sales are indeed running behind BMWNA's expectations.
They do, however, confirm that global sales are a little ahead of expectations, although the bar appears to have been set relatively low as I already provided the global number through Q1 of 2010 in an earlier post.
BMWNA confirms that just 1143 GT have been sold in the US since launch, and also that US sales are indeed running behind BMWNA's expectations.
They do, however, confirm that global sales are a little ahead of expectations, although the bar appears to have been set relatively low as I already provided the global number through Q1 of 2010 in an earlier post.
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05-26-2010, 04:44 AM
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No. Quotes attributed to BMWNA's CEO and BMWNA's Senior VP of Sales.
Numerous websites carried the story. Here's just one.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11005252...series-gt-with
Others carry additional quotes from Jim O'Donnell - the CEO of BMW NA - confirming that GT sales in the US were behind plan and failing to meet expectations.
06-18-2010, 08:09 AM
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No. Quotes attributed to BMWNA's CEO and BMWNA's Senior VP of Sales.
Numerous websites carried the story. Here's just one.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11005252...series-gt-with
Others carry additional quotes from Jim O'Donnell - the CEO of BMW NA - confirming that GT sales in the US were behind plan and failing to meet expectations.
Clearly this unique, but highly profitable car segment will get crowded in time and offerings from other premium automakers are expected soon. The BMW 5 Series GT sales in North America have already exceeded the initial expectations and reports coming from Europe are just as encouraging.
06-18-2010, 08:52 AM
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It turns out that my estimate of total US sales to date was actually overly generous.
BMWNA confirms that just 1143 GT have been sold in the US since launch, and also that US sales are indeed running behind BMWNA's expectations.
They do, however, confirm that global sales are a little ahead of expectations, although the bar appears to have been set relatively low as I already provided the global number through Q1 of 2010 in an earlier post.
BMWNA confirms that just 1143 GT have been sold in the US since launch, and also that US sales are indeed running behind BMWNA's expectations.
They do, however, confirm that global sales are a little ahead of expectations, although the bar appears to have been set relatively low as I already provided the global number through Q1 of 2010 in an earlier post.
The main market for this car was China anyway. So if the US is behind, but sales in the primary market are on target or "exceeding" expectations, its still a win. Not to mention the US market seems to be slow to respond to certain types a vehicles as well.
06-18-2010, 10:59 AM
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However you look at it, the 5GT has had a poor launch in the US.
06-18-2010, 07:15 PM
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To me, the look of that car/SUV/whatchamacallit are an abomination and a total 180 by BMW from what I always considered to be its core mission -- making the best driving (non-exotic) cars in the world. I just can't get over how ugly it looks on the very rare occassions when I have seen one in the NYC area. Maybe it will make US buyers appreciate how much better a choice the wagon would be for 5 Series buyers needing more cargo space and maybe that will result in the F11, which I think is beautiful, coming to our shores.
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06-19-2010, 06:59 AM
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I'm more persuaded by BMW NA's CEO saying saying sales are weak and confiming only 1143 sales up to May 2010 than an unattributed and unsubstantiated quote on a blog... BMW's senior US leadership confirmed that sales have not met US expectations.
However you look at it, the 5GT has had a poor launch in the US.
However you look at it, the 5GT has had a poor launch in the US.
As I stated if BMW is ahead of the game overall (with GT Sales globally) - its still a win. I have seen some recent sales figures yet I haven't seen the numbers you posted substantied, outside of the weblink you provided, so IMHO those statements may be suspect as well.
Those of us who own GT's could care less if the US launch isn't on target yet as we are ultimately satisfied with our decisions to buy.
06-19-2010, 07:21 AM
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To me, the look of that car/SUV/whatchamacallit are an abomination and a total 180 by BMW from what I always considered to be its core mission -- making the best driving (non-exotic) cars in the world. I just can't get over how ugly it looks on the very rare occassions when I have seen one in the NYC area. Maybe it will make US buyers appreciate how much better a choice the wagon would be for 5 Series buyers needing more cargo space and maybe that will result in the F11, which I think is beautiful, coming to our shores.
Send the pig to the slaughterhouse.
Send the pig to the slaughterhouse.
I would consider a new or low mile CPO e60 M5 seeing as though there are huge discounts currently - and that would be "only" because of the N/A V10 which is arguably one of the best engines BMW has ever produced.
06-19-2010, 07:54 AM
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As I stated if BMW is ahead of the game overall (with GT Sales globally) - its still a win. I have seen some recent sales figures yet I haven't seen the numbers you posted substantied, outside of the weblink you provided, so IMHO those statements may be suspect as well.
Those of us who own GT's could care less if the US launch isn't on target yet as we are ultimately satisfied with our decisions to buy.
Those of us who own GT's could care less if the US launch isn't on target yet as we are ultimately satisfied with our decisions to buy.
06-19-2010, 08:57 PM
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To me, the look of that car/SUV/whatchamacallit are an abomination and a total 180 by BMW from what I always considered to be its core mission -- making the best driving (non-exotic) cars in the world. I just can't get over how ugly it looks on the very rare occassions when I have seen one in the NYC area. Maybe it will make US buyers appreciate how much better a choice the wagon would be for 5 Series buyers needing more cargo space and maybe that will result in the F11, which I think is beautiful, coming to our shores.
Send the pig to the slaughterhouse.
Send the pig to the slaughterhouse.