Why does the 2011 5-series look like my wife's 2006 330xi?

Please don't flame me... it's a serious question. I wonder if I am the only one who has made a similar observation. :confused:

and looks like the new 7 series as well :whistle:

im sorry i dont see it. :confused:

In what way?

When was your last eye exam? :whistle:

The headlights particularly...

And yes, it has been a while since I had my eyes checked. :think:

I guess there is a little resemblence...if you look hard...

Here's the 2006 3 series:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...6_1024x768.jpg


But I think the current 3 series resembles even more:


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...309101_815.jpg


However, there's no denying that the F10 is the 7's little brother....Here's the 7:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...03ab24f2f6.jpg

I've mistaken an LCI 3 for the new 5 several times in my rear-view mirror.

The Three, Five and Seven are now essentially one sausage available in three sizes...

The F10 is a good looking car, there's no doubt - I just wish it were a little more distinguishable from its siblings. You can bet your bottom dollar that the F30 is going to be a slightly smaller F10.

Still, BMW clearly felt that it had to be more conservative with the design and it's working out. Sales are good, the design isn't polarizing like the E60 and it is a design which is modern, clean and fresh. I will say that for me the only real design issue is that it looks so much like the Seven. I just wish it stood out a little more.

Then again, I drive a car which looks like it's 40 year older brother so what do I know o:)

The F10 does look like the 3 series from the side, and the back because BMW gave the F10 the 7 series front, and the 3 series rear. In certain colors like white, and black it looks decent, and there is less legroom than the E60.
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one, the F10 looks more like a larger 3 series to me because of the tail. If you can afford the 7, hands down the 7 is your best bet. At the end of the day it's what you like, and not anyone else since it's you're $$$ you worked hard for to buy what makes you happy.

Agree with this response. Bmw has always been like that. Chris bangle kinda screwed that trend, hence the reason he is no longer there. With that said i am an e60 owner so i did like his work. LCI e90 sedan and f11 do share a lot of simliarities. Expect the new 3 series to have a similar but more simple interior as well!

Why does the E60 look old compared to the F10?

If you price it out on bmwusa, atleast from a lease perspective you can get a nice 740i for about the same price as a 550i which to me seems like a no brainer. If you are in the market for a f10 than you concede you want a lux cruiser-witih that said why not get the ultimate lux cruiser which is a tad larger but much nicer design, more lux interior and a "higher badge". Seems like really the 5 series has no place given the offering of the 740i to the U.S. Just my .02

I think its largely the front headlights and trunk lines that make the f10 equal to the e90.

If the cost is going to be similar, why would you get a less-optioned 740i instead of a loaded 550i? The 550i has a more powerful engine (the 740i has a measly V6), less mass and thus much better performance. Also, you could get almost every option in the 5 series now that is available in the 7. In my opinion, the F10 has a better design than the 7, especially in the M-Sport version. To me, the only advantage the 7 has over the 5 is in the increased passenger room in the 740iL/750iL model. That's it. (Also, you can't even get the X-Drive in the 740i model...you'll have to pay a lot more $$$ to get that in the 750i).

Actually doesn't have a v6 so clearly your knowledge of the car and thus your arguement is not worth wasting time refuting. One reason is the f10 looks like vomit and the f01 is a beauty. You clearly have never sat in a 7. The seats are like an airplane and are amazing-even wider than the 5, the long wheelbase of a 7 makes for a lux cruiser that is much more devine than the 5. You no longer buy a 5 for sportiness as its not sporty. So if you want luxury which you do if you are looking at a 5 than go for the more luxurios car which is equally as sporty.

The measley engine by the way puts out 330hp/330tq. That is more than the v8 from a few years ago. Wouldn't call it measley. Especially since 1000 tune can give you 450 hp and make it more than the v8 and a lot lighter

Agree.

F01(7), F11(5), Upcoming F30(3) = Russian Doll syndrome.

OK, by now everybody around here knows that you're a worthless TROLL and that you post the same garbage here time and time again to flame the F10 and its owners.....so why don't we dispense with the B.S. and get to the truth.

V6 or TTV6.....so what?.....it's still a 6 cylinder dummy. (In a $70K+ car). And the 740i's engine makes 315hp, not 330hp, so who's the idiot around here that don't know the cars? :rolleyes: :whistle:

....and we're not talking about "a few years ago".....315hp in a $70K+ "Flagship" luxury car nowdays is inadequate. Even a frickin Hyundai Genesis now makes 385hp.

To call the 740i equally as sporty as the 550i is ludicrous. The 550i sport will run rings around the 740i.

And why talk about mods?.....sure you can mod the 740i and get more hp....but you can do the same to the 550i. But unlike the 5 series, very, very few people go out and buy a 7 to mod it.

If you want to play chaffeur, I guess the 7 series would be a good choice because of the additional room.

Why don't you do everyone a favor around here and quit posting the same thinly-veiled F10-hate crap. We know you constantly and secretly obsess about the F10....either get one or STFU. :thumbsdown:

Actually anyone who knows anything about the bmw TT engines know they are making well above the rated HP so 330 is actually conservative. Probably closer to 345 or so. It also does not weight very much more than the 5 so why in the world would the 5 run circles around a 7! that is ludirous.

Clearly you have no clue about bmw's nobody who has any common bmw sense would not really know "v6 or I6tt whats the difference-they are both 6 cylinders" Clearly you just have no clue

Well then accordng to your "logic," my 550i which makes "only" 400hp should really be making closer to 450hp because it's a TT engine also.......or does that only apply to the 745i because it has a "magic" TT engine or simply because you said so?


You're so desperate for the F10 to fail, it's really amusing to see what you'll come up with next.

I guess it must be eating you up pretty good to see the F10 selling so well while the 7 continues to be mediocre.


Sucks to be you, pal :tease:

it doesnt look old so much as it looks like a his and her set

Peterson you are slower than you even realize!!!! You cannot even tell when someone is making fun of you and then you come back with something that makes you look even more foolish. Life must be a struggle for you.

Its an INLINE 6 you dope.

thanks for playing :dance:

Who's Peterson? :think: ...your boyfriend perhaps? :whistle:

The only slow tool around here is you for responding to a post that was submitted almost 4 weeks ago!

You disappoint me, Diamond. I now have to give the "King F10 Troll" honor to Babken, instead.

By the way, it's technically a Twin-Turbo Inline 6 you dope.

Thanks for playing. :dance:

Her as in the E60, I suppose?

Peterson lost this battle and got feisty-he PM'ed me in frustration. A real original witty comment too--

"Can you do a favor for everyone at the F10 forums and just kill yourself? I would very much appreciate it"
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Seriously, you're way beyond help.

I'm done.

Once again, as usual, Steve is right on the money. The reality is that the sausage in 3 sizes worked very well for BMW and helped to make it one of the world's most coveted sport/luxury cars. Bangle was absolutely a revolutionary with brilliant design (I for one think the E60 looks more modern and futuristic than the F10) but his break the mold philosophy ultimately did not mesh with BMW's more conversative design culture.

Pete, surely you didn't think that Diamond could be reformed did you? A guy can be banned multiple times but it is not going to change who he is or is not.

Peterson continues to PM me nasty messages and you all think I have a problem? Think about it. What kind of grown man gets so frustrated on an internet board and starts harrasing a "troll" with incessant private messages! And you think I am problematic :dance:

diamond, you're not problematic. you don't really add or detract from any conversations. you're just annoying and people get frustrated because they either a) have to constantly scroll past your messages, or b) realize that if they just ignore you, you'll get louder and louder and more irritating.

you, diamond, are the distracting trumpet.

If I am just a small distraction why would Peterson take the time to send me now 3 different threatning PMS telling me to die. ? Sounds like he is unstable. Peterson you may want to take anger management classes or see a shrink to restrain your emotions :twoup:

My "personal" opinion is that the E60 is a better looking car then the F10. It is more defined, smoooth(not a misprint)and the panels have integrity, flow if you will. The F10 is the medium sausage. I had an 08 335i and can see similarities. Again just my opinion.

Newer paint job on the F10 DUhhhh!!! jk

I think the F10 really looks like E46 Facelift Sedan:

At least you kept it in the BMW family. I honestly mistook the F10 for a Buick. So far, I'm not feeling this car. It looks like they were targeting 60+ yr. olds. I hope it grows on me. :think: