Dislike of the F10
10-19-2010, 03:46 PM
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This thread is designed to give us F10 haters a solemn place to vent without all those F10 worshipers breathing down our neck (you know who you are ) trying to convince us that BMW made the car that MOST PEOPLE WANT.
My first issue is that I keep confusing it with a new 7?!?! I think the defining characteristics have been removed for a 'different size sausage'.
Second, I'm not all that concerned with fractions of a second in the 0-60,70,etc raher the handling of the car. Even a Honda Accord can get up and go (in its own right) but because it handles like shi* there's no way I'd trust myself in one. I think the F10 has left behind that feeling that I get with my E60 where I can feel like one with the road. The F10feels somewhat clumsy and not as responsive to me.
Luxury- Well, the F10 wins that category. I mean, the slant of the dash, placement of controls, overall feel are really nice and made me feel like I was in a luxury car.
If I wanted pure lux I'd go MB, they've got it mastered. But I , as others, are driving enthusiasts and well, this one falls short of meeting that requirement.
I can't seem to get over my disappointment of the rear. It looks round and small as opposed to the front which makes more of a statement. When I saw the sport version with rear diffuser I was extremely disappointed. It doesn't have those clean sporty lines.
That's all I've got time for now. Afterall, I don't want to appear as a person 'with nothing better to do than troll the F10 boards'.
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My first issue is that I keep confusing it with a new 7?!?! I think the defining characteristics have been removed for a 'different size sausage'.
Second, I'm not all that concerned with fractions of a second in the 0-60,70,etc raher the handling of the car. Even a Honda Accord can get up and go (in its own right) but because it handles like shi* there's no way I'd trust myself in one. I think the F10 has left behind that feeling that I get with my E60 where I can feel like one with the road. The F10feels somewhat clumsy and not as responsive to me.
Luxury- Well, the F10 wins that category. I mean, the slant of the dash, placement of controls, overall feel are really nice and made me feel like I was in a luxury car.
If I wanted pure lux I'd go MB, they've got it mastered. But I , as others, are driving enthusiasts and well, this one falls short of meeting that requirement.
I can't seem to get over my disappointment of the rear. It looks round and small as opposed to the front which makes more of a statement. When I saw the sport version with rear diffuser I was extremely disappointed. It doesn't have those clean sporty lines.
That's all I've got time for now. Afterall, I don't want to appear as a person 'with nothing better to do than troll the F10 boards'.
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10-19-2010, 04:51 PM
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My point exactly!
Starting a rift is not my intention at all, but everytime there's opposition to the F10 the backlash is practically personal, so I just wanted to create a thread that allows forum users to discuss their dissatifaction of the F10 without such reprocussion.
10-19-2010, 05:01 PM
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That's kind of been my point (and others too) is that both are great in their own likes, and especially to those who forked over their hard earned dough to get one. But agreeing to disagree doesn't seem possible regarding the F10.
I really hope this thread doesn't go much further, rather we can continue to discuss and agree or disagree on the F10 threads without the personal attacks.
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I agree but the best way to avoid attacks in the first place is to not start threads with titles like: "Dislike of the F10--Haters only"....only adds fuel to the fire. 
Seriously, I don't have a problem with people expressing their opinions. But there is a big difference between an opinion and a blanket accusation meant only to flame.
If someone says they don't like the F10, fine.......that's their opinion
If someone says the F10 has Failed, or the F10 is a boatload of ___, or every magazine says the F10 is worse than the E60, or the F10 is a car for the AARP or some shit like that......that's trolling.
Seriously, I don't have a problem with people expressing their opinions. But there is a big difference between an opinion and a blanket accusation meant only to flame.
If someone says they don't like the F10, fine.......that's their opinion
If someone says the F10 has Failed, or the F10 is a boatload of ___, or every magazine says the F10 is worse than the E60, or the F10 is a car for the AARP or some shit like that......that's trolling.
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Simple facts:
- The F10 is better than the E60 in many things, but not everything.
- Every time I try to point out the shortages of the F10 that are annoying me when considering buying one, people attack me because of course "newer is better".
- Every time I try to prove why these shortages are annoying me, using my subjective feelings when I test drove the car for two days or even scientific approach going into mechanical engineering equations that I thought I would never share with anyone after college, people still attack me.
- Every time I mention that BMW might be going in the wrong business directions by getting more into luxury and less into sportiness which might result in losing customers to MB, Audi and Jag etc., people still attack me.
- Even when I try to clearly stress on the F10 major advantages, but highlight its minor short comings, ........again.
Conclusion:
Ok, BMW has created the F10 without any short comings and no disadvantages. The F10 is better than the E60 in everything, and it will prove more successful in sales and will annihilate the competition till the F10 is the only car sold in the world.
- The F10 is better than the E60 in many things, but not everything.
- Every time I try to point out the shortages of the F10 that are annoying me when considering buying one, people attack me because of course "newer is better".
- Every time I try to prove why these shortages are annoying me, using my subjective feelings when I test drove the car for two days or even scientific approach going into mechanical engineering equations that I thought I would never share with anyone after college, people still attack me.
- Every time I mention that BMW might be going in the wrong business directions by getting more into luxury and less into sportiness which might result in losing customers to MB, Audi and Jag etc., people still attack me.
- Even when I try to clearly stress on the F10 major advantages, but highlight its minor short comings, ........again.
Conclusion:
Ok, BMW has created the F10 without any short comings and no disadvantages. The F10 is better than the E60 in everything, and it will prove more successful in sales and will annihilate the competition till the F10 is the only car sold in the world
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10-20-2010, 06:25 AM
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Simple facts:
- The F10 is better than the E60 in many things, but not everything.
- Every time I try to point out the shortages of the F10 that are annoying me when considering buying one, people attack me because of course "newer is better".
- Every time I try to prove why these shortages are annoying me, using my subjective feelings when I test drove the car for two days or even scientific approach going into mechanical engineering equations that I thought I would never share with anyone after college, people still attack me.
- Every time I mention that BMW might be going in the wrong business directions by getting more into luxury and less into sportiness which might result in losing customers to MB, Audi and Jag etc., people still attack me.
- Even when I try to clearly stress on the F10 major advantages, but highlight its minor short comings, ........again.
Conclusion:
Ok, BMW has created the F10 without any short comings and no disadvantages. The F10 is better than the E60 in everything, and it will prove more successful in sales and will annihilate the competition till the F10 is the only car sold in the world.
- The F10 is better than the E60 in many things, but not everything.
- Every time I try to point out the shortages of the F10 that are annoying me when considering buying one, people attack me because of course "newer is better".
- Every time I try to prove why these shortages are annoying me, using my subjective feelings when I test drove the car for two days or even scientific approach going into mechanical engineering equations that I thought I would never share with anyone after college, people still attack me.
- Every time I mention that BMW might be going in the wrong business directions by getting more into luxury and less into sportiness which might result in losing customers to MB, Audi and Jag etc., people still attack me.
- Even when I try to clearly stress on the F10 major advantages, but highlight its minor short comings, ........again.
Conclusion:
Ok, BMW has created the F10 without any short comings and no disadvantages. The F10 is better than the E60 in everything, and it will prove more successful in sales and will annihilate the competition till the F10 is the only car sold in the world
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Im not sure if BMW will lose any to Jag. Since when is Jag consider a "cool" car to own??? haha
10-20-2010, 07:38 AM
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Wasn't it that the E60 won every competition in the magazines but the F10 lost? I even remember that one issue of (can't remember which magazine) either Motor Trend or Car and Driver, where they tested an E60 against the new E-class and the E60 had a clean lead over the competition, and they made a side note in the test saying "If the 'old' 5-series is still on top of the competition, what more when the new 5-series comes out?" 