BMW Sales (U.S.) August 2010
09-02-2010, 07:29 AM
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Generally yes, but considering the launch date of the 5'ers, no 528i or xi models (in the US), ..... I am of the opinion that October numbers will be more meaningful.
09-02-2010, 07:58 AM
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The numbers are pretty mediocre. Year on year numbers are going to be distorted a little by the end of the cash for clunkers program in 09 - not that this program will have made as much impact at the higher end of the market where the 5 series plays - but offset by the new model and BMW catching up with latent demand. The factory shutdown is a non sequitur - it will have had zero impact on August sales in the US. Numbers being down would have been understandable if supply was tight, but it seemingly isn't - there seem to be plenty of cars in dealer inventory.
The most telling thing is that this is, philosophically, the closest a 5 Series has ever come to the MB E Class - BMW built the F10 to be larger, more comfortable, more focused on luxury than sport, essentially the attributes that have long characterized the E Class. And the E Class, which let us not forget is no longer a new model and thus now running through its normal sales cycle - is dominating.
I've made the point before and I'll make it again - BMW has a higher enthusiast base than other mainstream brands and BMW is playing a risky game if it abandons what made it different and starts playing in the space where MB is dominant and more experienced. It will be interesting to see how the F10 numbers hold up, but I think it will be playing second fiddle to the E for some time to come.
The most telling thing is that this is, philosophically, the closest a 5 Series has ever come to the MB E Class - BMW built the F10 to be larger, more comfortable, more focused on luxury than sport, essentially the attributes that have long characterized the E Class. And the E Class, which let us not forget is no longer a new model and thus now running through its normal sales cycle - is dominating.
I've made the point before and I'll make it again - BMW has a higher enthusiast base than other mainstream brands and BMW is playing a risky game if it abandons what made it different and starts playing in the space where MB is dominant and more experienced. It will be interesting to see how the F10 numbers hold up, but I think it will be playing second fiddle to the E for some time to come.
09-02-2010, 08:42 AM
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The numbers are pretty mediocre. Year on year numbers are going to be distorted a little by the end of the cash for clunkers program in 09 - not that this program will have made as much impact at the higher end of the market where the 5 series plays - but offset by the new model and BMW catching up with latent demand. The factory shutdown is a non sequitur - it will have had zero impact on August sales in the US. Numbers being down would have been understandable if supply was tight, but it seemingly isn't - there seem to be plenty of cars in dealer inventory.
The most telling thing is that this is, philosophically, the closest a 5 Series has ever come to the MB E Class - BMW built the F10 to be larger, more comfortable, more focused on luxury than sport, essentially the attributes that have long characterized the E Class. And the E Class, which let us not forget is no longer a new model and thus now running through its normal sales cycle - is dominating.
I've made the point before and I'll make it again - BMW has a higher enthusiast base than other mainstream brands and BMW is playing a risky game if it abandons what made it different and starts playing in the space where MB is dominant and more experienced. It will be interesting to see how the F10 numbers hold up, but I think it will be playing second fiddle to the E for some time to come.
The most telling thing is that this is, philosophically, the closest a 5 Series has ever come to the MB E Class - BMW built the F10 to be larger, more comfortable, more focused on luxury than sport, essentially the attributes that have long characterized the E Class. And the E Class, which let us not forget is no longer a new model and thus now running through its normal sales cycle - is dominating.
I've made the point before and I'll make it again - BMW has a higher enthusiast base than other mainstream brands and BMW is playing a risky game if it abandons what made it different and starts playing in the space where MB is dominant and more experienced. It will be interesting to see how the F10 numbers hold up, but I think it will be playing second fiddle to the E for some time to come.
09-02-2010, 09:37 AM
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Did test drive the M-B E and it's not as nice as the F10.
09-02-2010, 09:49 AM
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The 5-series to E-Class dynamic is somewhat worse now than compared to the launch of the E60.
During the first two full months of E60 deliveries (Oct & Nov '03) BMW sold 6,594 units compared to 11,344 E-Class sales (63%). Current BMW 5 series sales are just 51% of the E-Class at the launch of the F10. Gulp.
But even though the E60 got off to a "slow" start too, it eventually caught up to the E-Class and at its peak (Dec 2006, for example), sold more than the E-Class (7,460 to 7,116).
During the first two full months of E60 deliveries (Oct & Nov '03) BMW sold 6,594 units compared to 11,344 E-Class sales (63%). Current BMW 5 series sales are just 51% of the E-Class at the launch of the F10. Gulp.
But even though the E60 got off to a "slow" start too, it eventually caught up to the E-Class and at its peak (Dec 2006, for example), sold more than the E-Class (7,460 to 7,116).
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09-03-2010, 07:12 AM
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09-03-2010, 08:30 AM
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You never asnwered my question though it was before the first time you got banned... Has your friend actually let you drive his MB yet? Or are you basing your comments on his views?