** F10 TEST DRIVE REVIEWS are finally in and online
01-22-2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='1095883' date='Jan 22 2010, 04:47 PM
so basically waiting for the top gear review/episode 
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Have they all tested the same car? Weird.
01-23-2010, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SSRL_2006' post='1095431' date='Jan 22 2010, 12:02 AM
Can't wait for a comparison test against the new Merc E-Class and Jaguar XF etc
01-23-2010, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by terps' post='1095685' date='Jan 22 2010, 10:04 AM
Best news from all these reviews... that the price will be lower than the E60!! 
01-24-2010, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='1095883' date='Jan 22 2010, 04:47 PM
so basically waiting for the top gear review/episode
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Clarkson for example dogs on BMWs because it's funny and it's his thing to do.
I wouldn't rely on Top Gear to form your opinion on how good the F10 really is. Just use it for entertainment.
01-25-2010, 05:42 AM
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Today's Active Steering incorporates a rear-wheel rack that steers up to 2.5 degrees in the opposite direction at low speeds to reduce the turning radius (which nevertheless increases by 1.8 feet), or in the same direction as the front wheels at high speed to simulate a longer, more stable wheelbase.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...l#ixzz0ddRQBs2I
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...l#ixzz0ddRQBs2I
01-25-2010, 06:01 AM
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I'm sure this post will come up to haunt me in years to come. But, in comparison to my current ride, I don't like the F10. I don't like its looks outside which are different from the E60 and I don't like the inside which looks very similar to the E60. Its hard to tell though, as everyone is saying, need to see the Sport package and mods on one to really tell.
Oh well. I plan on keeping mine for at least 6 more years, maybe they will come out with a better one by then.
Oh well. I plan on keeping mine for at least 6 more years, maybe they will come out with a better one by then.
01-25-2010, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by terps' post='1097275' date='Jan 24 2010, 09:46 PM
Top Gear reviews/episodes are the most entertaining car reviews out there, but that's mostly what it is -- "entertainment".
Clarkson for example dogs on BMWs because it's funny and it's his thing to do.
I wouldn't rely on Top Gear to form your opinion on how good the F10 really is. Just use it for entertainment.
Clarkson for example dogs on BMWs because it's funny and it's his thing to do.
I wouldn't rely on Top Gear to form your opinion on how good the F10 really is. Just use it for entertainment.
01-25-2010, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bha7176' post='1097455' date='Jan 25 2010, 08:01 AM
I'm sure this post will come up to haunt me in years to come. But, in comparison to my current ride, I don't like the F10. I don't like its looks outside which are different from the E60 and I don't like the inside which looks very similar to the E60. Its hard to tell though, as everyone is saying, need to see the Sport package and mods on one to really tell.
Oh well. I plan on keeping mine for at least 6 more years, maybe they will come out with a better one by then.
Oh well. I plan on keeping mine for at least 6 more years, maybe they will come out with a better one by then.
01-26-2010, 04:33 AM
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As I expected, the MT test confirms my fear that the over 200 pound weight gain from E60 to F10 has hurt the 535's performance given that power is the same for that model. The MT test indicates that the F10 535 is slower than the E60 535 in acceleration up to 70 mph -- a big step in the wrong direction. Here is the comparo of stats from the MT article: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...test/specs.html
2010 BMW 535i 2011 BMW 535i
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front-engine, RWD Front-engine, RWD
Engine type Twin-turbo I-6 alum block/head Turbocharged I-6 alum block/head
Valvetrain DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Displacement 181.1 cu in/2979cc 181.1 cu in/2979cc
Compression ratio 10.2:1 10.2:1
Power (SAE net) 300 hp @ 5800 rpm 300 hp @ 5800 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 300 lb-ft @ 1400 rpm 300 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
Redline 7000 rpm 7000 rpm
Weight to power 12.8 lb/hp 13.7 lb/hp
Transmission 6-speed automatic 8-speed automatic
Axle/final-drive ratios 3.46:1/2.39:1 3.08:1/2.05:1
Suspension, front; rear Struts, coil springs, adj anti-roll bar; multi-link, coil springs, adj anti-roll bar Multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, adj anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, adj anti-roll bar
Steering ratio 13.7:1 17.0:1
Turns lock-to-lock 2.6 2
Brakes, f;r 13.7-in vented disc; 13.6-in vented disc, ABS 14.7-in vented disc; 14.6-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r 8.0 x 18-in, cast aluminum 8.0 x 18-in, cast aluminum
Tires, f;r 245/40R-18 93Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 245/45R-18 96Y Dunlop SP SportMaxx GT
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase 113.7 in 116.9 in
Track, f/r 61.3/62.2 in 63.0/64.1 in
Length x width x height 191.1 x 72.7 x 57.8 in 193.1 x 73.2 x 57.6 in
Turning circle 37.4 ft 39.2 ft
Curb weight 3844 lb 4100 lb (mfr)
Weight dist., f/r 50/50% 50/50%
Seating capacity 5 5
Headroom, f/r 39.1/38.1 in 40.5/38.3 in
Legroom, f/r 41.5/36.0 in 41.4/36.1 in
Shoulder room, f/r 57.3/57.2 in 58.3/56.2 in
Cargo volume 14.0 cu ft 18.4 cu ft
TEST DATA
Acceleration to mph
0-30 2.0 sec 2.1 sec
0-40 2.8 3.1
0-50 4.2 4.2
0-60 5.5 5.6
0-70 7.1 7.2
0-80 9.3 9
0-90 11.4 11.2
0-100 13.9 13.8
0-110 18.4 17.6
0-120 22.2 21.6
Passing, 45-65 mph 2.6 2.7
Quarter mile 14.1 sec @ 100.6 mph 14.1 sec @ 101.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 112 ft 109 ft
Top-gear revs @ 60 mph 2150 rpm 1900 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
Base price $51,925 $53,000 (est)
Price as tested $57,675 $64,000 (est)
Stability/traction control Yes/yes Yes/yes
Airbags Dual front, front side, front knee, f/r curtain Dual front, front side, f/r curtain
Basic warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Powertrain warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Roadside assistance 4 yrs/unlimited miles 4 yrs/unlimited miles
Fuel capacity 18.5 gal 18.5 gal
EPA city/hwy econ 16/24 mpg Not yet rated
CO2 emissions 1.03 lb/mile -
Recommended fuel Unleaded premium Unleaded premium
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...l#ixzz0dizqshje
2010 BMW 535i 2011 BMW 535i
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front-engine, RWD Front-engine, RWD
Engine type Twin-turbo I-6 alum block/head Turbocharged I-6 alum block/head
Valvetrain DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Displacement 181.1 cu in/2979cc 181.1 cu in/2979cc
Compression ratio 10.2:1 10.2:1
Power (SAE net) 300 hp @ 5800 rpm 300 hp @ 5800 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 300 lb-ft @ 1400 rpm 300 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
Redline 7000 rpm 7000 rpm
Weight to power 12.8 lb/hp 13.7 lb/hp
Transmission 6-speed automatic 8-speed automatic
Axle/final-drive ratios 3.46:1/2.39:1 3.08:1/2.05:1
Suspension, front; rear Struts, coil springs, adj anti-roll bar; multi-link, coil springs, adj anti-roll bar Multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, adj anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, adj anti-roll bar
Steering ratio 13.7:1 17.0:1
Turns lock-to-lock 2.6 2
Brakes, f;r 13.7-in vented disc; 13.6-in vented disc, ABS 14.7-in vented disc; 14.6-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r 8.0 x 18-in, cast aluminum 8.0 x 18-in, cast aluminum
Tires, f;r 245/40R-18 93Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 245/45R-18 96Y Dunlop SP SportMaxx GT
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase 113.7 in 116.9 in
Track, f/r 61.3/62.2 in 63.0/64.1 in
Length x width x height 191.1 x 72.7 x 57.8 in 193.1 x 73.2 x 57.6 in
Turning circle 37.4 ft 39.2 ft
Curb weight 3844 lb 4100 lb (mfr)
Weight dist., f/r 50/50% 50/50%
Seating capacity 5 5
Headroom, f/r 39.1/38.1 in 40.5/38.3 in
Legroom, f/r 41.5/36.0 in 41.4/36.1 in
Shoulder room, f/r 57.3/57.2 in 58.3/56.2 in
Cargo volume 14.0 cu ft 18.4 cu ft
TEST DATA
Acceleration to mph
0-30 2.0 sec 2.1 sec
0-40 2.8 3.1
0-50 4.2 4.2
0-60 5.5 5.6
0-70 7.1 7.2
0-80 9.3 9
0-90 11.4 11.2
0-100 13.9 13.8
0-110 18.4 17.6
0-120 22.2 21.6
Passing, 45-65 mph 2.6 2.7
Quarter mile 14.1 sec @ 100.6 mph 14.1 sec @ 101.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 112 ft 109 ft
Top-gear revs @ 60 mph 2150 rpm 1900 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
Base price $51,925 $53,000 (est)
Price as tested $57,675 $64,000 (est)
Stability/traction control Yes/yes Yes/yes
Airbags Dual front, front side, front knee, f/r curtain Dual front, front side, f/r curtain
Basic warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Powertrain warranty 4 yrs/50,000 miles 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Roadside assistance 4 yrs/unlimited miles 4 yrs/unlimited miles
Fuel capacity 18.5 gal 18.5 gal
EPA city/hwy econ 16/24 mpg Not yet rated
CO2 emissions 1.03 lb/mile -
Recommended fuel Unleaded premium Unleaded premium
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...l#ixzz0dizqshje