Wheel Questions xi Sedan v. Touring
08-30-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='463774' date='Aug 29 2007, 08:59 AM
Long story and covered here beofre in depth, might find more info via the seacrh option.
But my understanding of the situation in a nutshell is, BMW have to get TUV in Germany for all cars produced, this included the wheel set up.
It is an expensive and drawn out procedure and they did not do so for the E61 with a staggered set up, so it is not offered as an option.
There is however no reason why the staggered wheel set up cannot be used and a number of members have used the sedan set up on the tourer.
The high priest of wheels is member 'Olli_535d'
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But my understanding of the situation in a nutshell is, BMW have to get TUV in Germany for all cars produced, this included the wheel set up.
It is an expensive and drawn out procedure and they did not do so for the E61 with a staggered set up, so it is not offered as an option.
There is however no reason why the staggered wheel set up cannot be used and a number of members have used the sedan set up on the tourer.
The high priest of wheels is member 'Olli_535d'
His knowledge is extensive and if you have any lingering doubts a pm to him should allay them.
08-30-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gorillamunch' post='464257' date='Aug 30 2007, 01:12 PM
Pardon my ignorance KAF, but what is "TUV". I searched the foum but didn't get a hit - I suspect "TUV" is too short. Is it a government approval of some kind for wheel fitment? Thx.
Mine has the CSL wheels 19 x 8.5 with 40mm offset and 245 35 19 tires with no issues (so far).
Jed, sorry to hear the Rials are crap, they were one of the wheels I was considering. What's the issue with them?
OP, I know the staggered set up looks better, but the car will handle better with a square set up.
08-30-2007, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jbeene' post='464292' date='Aug 30 2007, 04:50 PM
OP, I know the staggered set up looks better, but the car will handle better with a square set up.
08-30-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cmansbimmer' post='464307' date='Aug 30 2007, 03:20 PM
I disagree. A staggered set-up will make the car handle even better. Whether it will work or not on a Touring is another story, but I've done both on my xi and staggered hands down handles better.
09-03-2007, 07:23 PM
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Check these out ... go to http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/bmw_specials.html
They sell the following:
What do you guys think?
They sell the following:
Model: 19x8" & 19x9" BMW Style #135 Replica Wheels (For2093.4S)
Color: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
(Set of 4) Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specs
Exceeds TUV, DOT, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Piece LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 19x8" Fronts & 19x9" Rears
Offset: 47mm Fronts & 45mm Rears
Bolt Pattern: 5x120mm
Hub-bore: 72.56mm
No hub rings needed, direct fit!
Blank center caps and lugs are included.
Fitments:
Fits 1999-2005 BMW 3 Series (E46)
All BMW Z3 Models
All BMW Z4 Models
Will not fit BMW E46 M3, M Coupe, or M Roadster
When I throw these into the offset calculator I get 4mm less inner clearance for the fronts (which I could solve with a 5mm spacer) and 15mm less inner clearance and 11mm extra extension for the rears. Just need to make sure I have an extra 15mm of room in there after I have the H&R lowering springs installed ....... Color: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
(Set of 4) Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specs
Exceeds TUV, DOT, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Piece LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 19x8" Fronts & 19x9" Rears
Offset: 47mm Fronts & 45mm Rears
Bolt Pattern: 5x120mm
Hub-bore: 72.56mm
No hub rings needed, direct fit!
Blank center caps and lugs are included.
Fitments:
Fits 1999-2005 BMW 3 Series (E46)
All BMW Z3 Models
All BMW Z4 Models
Will not fit BMW E46 M3, M Coupe, or M Roadster
What do you guys think?
09-04-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gorillamunch' post='464257' date='Aug 30 2007, 08:12 PM
Is it a government approval of some kind for wheel fitment? Thx.
German equivalent of 'Type Approval'
09-06-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gorillamunch' post='465548' date='Sep 3 2007, 09:23 PM
Check these out ... go to http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/bmw_specials.html
They sell the following:
What do you guys think?
They sell the following:
Model: 19x8" & 19x9" BMW Style #135 Replica Wheels (For2093.4S)
Color: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
(Set of 4) Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specs
Exceeds TUV, DOT, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Piece LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 19x8" Fronts & 19x9" Rears
Offset: 47mm Fronts & 45mm Rears
Bolt Pattern: 5x120mm
Hub-bore: 72.56mm
No hub rings needed, direct fit!
Blank center caps and lugs are included.
Fitments:
Fits 1999-2005 BMW 3 Series (E46)
All BMW Z3 Models
All BMW Z4 Models
Will not fit BMW E46 M3, M Coupe, or M Roadster
When I throw these into the offset calculator I get 4mm less inner clearance for the fronts (which I could solve with a 5mm spacer) and 15mm less inner clearance and 11mm extra extension for the rears. Just need to make sure I have an extra 15mm of room in there after I have the H&R lowering springs installed ....... Color: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
(Set of 4) Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specs
Exceeds TUV, DOT, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Piece LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 19x8" Fronts & 19x9" Rears
Offset: 47mm Fronts & 45mm Rears
Bolt Pattern: 5x120mm
Hub-bore: 72.56mm
No hub rings needed, direct fit!
Blank center caps and lugs are included.
Fitments:
Fits 1999-2005 BMW 3 Series (E46)
All BMW Z3 Models
All BMW Z4 Models
Will not fit BMW E46 M3, M Coupe, or M Roadster
What do you guys think?
http://www.finishlinewheels.com/BMW/5+SERIES/2006/
I have a set of factory 43MM offset 135's in my garage 18 x 8 so you're calculations for the front look right. I think I read somewhere (velocity motorsports) that with the 45MM offset on the 19 by 9.5's they sell you need a 15MM spacer so it seems you may have solved the riddle.
09-07-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gorillamunch' post='465548' date='Sep 3 2007, 11:23 PM
Check these out ... go to http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/bmw_specials.html
They sell the following:
What do you guys think?
They sell the following:
Model: 19x8" & 19x9" BMW Style #135 Replica Wheels (For2093.4S)
Color: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
(Set of 4) Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specs
Exceeds TUV, DOT, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Piece LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 19x8" Fronts & 19x9" Rears
Offset: 47mm Fronts & 45mm Rears
Bolt Pattern: 5x120mm
Hub-bore: 72.56mm
No hub rings needed, direct fit!
Blank center caps and lugs are included.
Fitments:
Fits 1999-2005 BMW 3 Series (E46)
All BMW Z3 Models
All BMW Z4 Models
Will not fit BMW E46 M3, M Coupe, or M Roadster
When I throw these into the offset calculator I get 4mm less inner clearance for the fronts (which I could solve with a 5mm spacer) and 15mm less inner clearance and 11mm extra extension for the rears. Just need to make sure I have an extra 15mm of room in there after I have the H&R lowering springs installed ....... Color: Painted Factory Silver w/ Clearcoat
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
(Set of 4) Specs:
Brand New Made to Factory Specs
Exceeds TUV, DOT, JWL, & VIA standards
Structure: 1 Piece LP Cast Aluminum Alloy
Size: 19x8" Fronts & 19x9" Rears
Offset: 47mm Fronts & 45mm Rears
Bolt Pattern: 5x120mm
Hub-bore: 72.56mm
No hub rings needed, direct fit!
Blank center caps and lugs are included.
Fitments:
Fits 1999-2005 BMW 3 Series (E46)
All BMW Z3 Models
All BMW Z4 Models
Will not fit BMW E46 M3, M Coupe, or M Roadster
What do you guys think?
Looks like all the prices on the "BMW Specials" page have been dropped about $80 - $300 for every set.
Package # BMW-27
$929 Free Shipping.
is now
Package # BMW-27
$599 Free Shipping.
$330 drop I will be buying those today!
I had to call and ask if these were defects. I spoke to the Sales Manager, Nathan. He assures me that these are brand new and in perfect condition.
http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/bmw_specials.html
09-17-2007, 04:16 PM
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OK so i've done a bit more digging and realoem.com specs only symmetrical (i.e. non-staggered) wheels for all varieties of the Touring, both all wheel and rear wheel drive, North American and European (with the exception of the just released M5 Touring which is spec's with staggered wheels).
Also, there is no difference between the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive touring and the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive sedan. so logically the wheels spec'd for the all wheel drive sedan (style 124 18 x 8 (ET43) and 18 x 9 (ET55)) should fit on the all wheel drive wagon. Carrything this forward to the next step the 19 x 8.5 (ET40) 19 x 9.5 (ET45) VB3's
should fit as well.
So do I order them ....
Also, there is no difference between the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive touring and the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive sedan. so logically the wheels spec'd for the all wheel drive sedan (style 124 18 x 8 (ET43) and 18 x 9 (ET55)) should fit on the all wheel drive wagon. Carrything this forward to the next step the 19 x 8.5 (ET40) 19 x 9.5 (ET45) VB3's
should fit as well.
So do I order them ....
09-17-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gorillamunch' post='470459' date='Sep 17 2007, 08:16 PM
OK so i've done a bit more digging and realoem.com specs only symmetrical (i.e. non-staggered) wheels for all varieties of the Touring, both all wheel and rear wheel drive, North American and European (with the exception of the just released M5 Touring which is spec's with staggered wheels).
Also, there is no difference between the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive touring and the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive sedan. so logically the wheels spec'd for the all wheel drive sedan (style 124 18 x 8 (ET43) and 18 x 9 (ET55)) should fit on the all wheel drive wagon. Carrything this forward to the next step the 19 x 8.5 (ET40) 19 x 9.5 (ET45) VB3's
should fit as well.
So do I order them ....
Also, there is no difference between the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive touring and the wheels spec'd for the rear wheel drive sedan. so logically the wheels spec'd for the all wheel drive sedan (style 124 18 x 8 (ET43) and 18 x 9 (ET55)) should fit on the all wheel drive wagon. Carrything this forward to the next step the 19 x 8.5 (ET40) 19 x 9.5 (ET45) VB3's
should fit as well.
So do I order them ....
Get them in HyperBlack! I'm so glad to see you figured it all out. When you call Velocity, speak with Gideon. He's the sales manager. Tell him that Calton sent you. He knows me well. And one more piece of advice...don't have them mount the tires. Get your tires from TireRack and have them mounted locally. Are you getting TPM's for your new wheels?