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Old 10-12-2006, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by breytonhartge' post='344160' date='Oct 12 2006, 03:11 PM
Thanks for all the advice and support, I have approached the sales manager and he is working out a deal for me... but so far has offered this in compensation:

1. BMW M drive day for my wife and I
2. Free car protection kit. Including security window tint, leather and upholstery protection and paint protection.
3. Free rubber mats.
4. Extended registration for 6 months.

I am able to rescind the contract and the sales manager personally will attend to my purchase and has promised me a good deal. We will wait and see.
Most important, I hope you did not ever mention him yet this Forums

my thoughts:

ad 1. ok any delaer can do that for promo, but nice of him

ad 2. security window foils he ment, around max. 700$ or you tell me... paint protection of BMW? that is "bogous"

ad 3. come on you should get the velour ones

ad 4. if that is good for you. reg? not warranty...

and still you have no TV right??? Do you need the TV??? If not then ok you are IMO still short of what they offered you (how much is TV in USA...?) so still ask a free aux-in with install of course you may try Ipod but they will not do it,

I would push it till the end to get all as they shall be happy if you decide to get the car LoL


good thinking and post the pics if you settled the deal
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='344110' date='Oct 12 2006, 05:15 PM
and this is the same in USA and EU and around the World, if needed go to a good lawyer, but at least friegthen your dealer with lawyers, they like 'em GOOD LUCK

and nice forum name, are you goingt to have those parts...mixed
Thank you for the compliment. I will have some hartge parts as I am an authorised dealer for australia. I am also authorised for breyton, but their sales service is not as good as hartge.

Thanks for the advice.
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Originally Posted by breytonhartge' post='344503' date='Oct 13 2006, 10:58 AM
Thank you for the compliment. I will have some hartge parts as I am an authorised dealer for australia. I am also authorised for breyton, but their sales service is not as good as hartge.

Thanks for the advice.
congrats mate so you will have some nice Hartge things on?
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Originally Posted by breytonhartge' post='344503' date='Oct 13 2006, 04:58 PM
Thank you for the compliment. I will have some hartge parts as I am an authorised dealer for australia. I am also authorised for breyton, but their sales service is not as good as hartge.

Thanks for the advice.
that good news
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='344507' date='Oct 13 2006, 06:53 PM
congrats mate so you will have some nice Hartge things on?
errr... maybe not.. .I have just also gotten the Gpower distribution rights... and they have some seriously nice kit.

Maybe a mixture of both Gpower and Hartge? Gpower badge in front, and hartge badge at the back? kidding...

Gpower offer a supercharger kit for my vehicle which is very tempting...

I will be going back to the sales manager on Monday and demanding that they meet the contract as close as possible so I would want a TV. They offer in their accessories department an alpine in car entertainment system, which can take mp3, DVD, TV. So should make up for the loss of the TV and it will put the contract into what it was before. Wish me the best and lets hope the sales manager will agree.
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I really don't know whether to laugh or to cry... how many times can an organisation representing BMW drop the ball?

Today I called the parts department to see what their retrofit DVD/TV system is like. The parts guy told me that I could only get monitors fitted to the rear of the front seat head rests.. when I enquired as to whether I could get a monitor up front, the parts guy said to me what do you need a TV up front for isn't that what your lounge is for?

I really now don't know what to think about this. Canceling the contract will be too easy for them now. I now want them to feel some pain!!!!grrrr.. they need to be taught a lesson!
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Originally Posted by breytonhartge' post='345343' date='Oct 16 2006, 08:56 PM
I really don't know whether to laugh or to cry... how many times can an organisation representing BMW drop the ball?

Today I called the parts department to see what their retrofit DVD/TV system is like. The parts guy told me that I could only get monitors fitted to the rear of the front seat head rests.. when I enquired as to whether I could get a monitor up front, the parts guy said to me what do you need a TV up front for isn't that what your lounge is for?

I really now don't know what to think about this. Canceling the contract will be too easy for them now. I now want them to feel some pain!!!!grrrr.. they need to be taught a lesson!
Just forget it, it brain damage, just get other E60 from somewere elsa and have fun with it.
Or this is fun for you
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='345349' date='Oct 16 2006, 10:48 PM
Just forget it, it brain damage, just get other E60 from somewere elsa and have fun with it.
Or this is fun for you
this is not fun for me, I am now basically arguing on principle...
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Originally Posted by breytonhartge' post='345361' date='Oct 16 2006, 03:59 PM
this is not fun for me, I am now basically arguing on principle...
After all this shit, I would have left the dealer and give him the finger. This is a dealer who can't be thrusted, and you probabely never will.
If you want to get back at him, buy your car elsewhere and drive it to them to get something that is either very cheap or free. Just to show them that they missed on a car sale deal .
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Originally Posted by Doc Horror' post='345478' date='Oct 17 2006, 04:49 AM
After all this shit, I would have left the dealer and give him the finger. This is a dealer who can't be thrusted, and you probabely never will.
If you want to get back at him, buy your car elsewhere and drive it to them to get something that is either very cheap or free. Just to show them that they missed on a car sale deal .
believe me, I have thought about it... a lot! I did that about 10 years ago with this dealer... and now I may have to do it again, but I have called consumer affairs, and they say that I have an enforceable contract. They are prepared to take my case on this matter.


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