new winter tyres
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Originally Posted by poleposition' post='497556' date='Nov 22 2007, 04:36 AM
Why does it seem as if nobody in Europe uses Dunlop's wintersport M3 tire. It has one of the best reputations in the states as a winter tire for BMW's or so I thought.
Erm, look at the post above yours -- I'm using them and they are what BMW recommended to me! My wife is also having them fitted to her BMW. The Dunlops recently received the best reviews in a well known German car magazine. So I think they are pretty popular, maybe just not here in the forum?
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the m3 was the standard winter tire that bmw would sell here in austria, but with runflats now a must with most of the cars (must in the sense that most of the cars don't have a spare wheel, so therefore they need runflats), bmw has moved away from just offering the m3. i had the m3 on my merc - they were great. I thought i am getting them on the my 19" winter, turns out i got d3 - don't ask me what hte difference is...
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Originally Posted by xBMWx' post='497662' date='Nov 22 2007, 09:39 AM
Erm, look at the post above yours -- I'm using them and they are what BMW recommended to me! My wife is also having them fitted to her BMW. The Dunlops recently received the best reviews in a well known German car magazine. So I think they are pretty popular, maybe just not here in the forum?
Still looking for more details, but the Michelins don't seem available in the 245/40 R18 dimensions (yet). Dunlop is available in a wide array width, height & R15-R20. Price of the Dunlops seems better too.
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Originally Posted by rsyed' post='497682' date='Nov 22 2007, 11:05 AM
the m3 was the standard winter tire that bmw would sell here in austria, but with runflats now a must with most of the cars (must in the sense that most of the cars don't have a spare wheel, so therefore they need runflats), bmw has moved away from just offering the m3. i had the m3 on my merc - they were great. I thought i am getting them on the my 19" winter, turns out i got d3 - don't ask me what hte difference is...
The Dunlop Winter Sport 3D has won tests in both Germany (ADAC) and the Netherlands (ANW so they seem like a good choice. (other winner was Michelin Primacy Alpin PA3 but those don't seem to come in the 245/40 R18 dimension ?)
Anyone know what the real difference between the 3D and M3 Dunlop tyres is ?
That would allow me to narrow my options a bit
Thanks !
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Regardless of how much tyre technology has moved on I would still think that narrower tyres will grip better in snow and ice due to their higher contact pressure. Plus they're cheaper!
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='497619' date='Nov 22 2007, 01:15 AM
+1 Dunlop Winter Sport M3's seem to get the best rating here by BMW owners in the states as far as 18" tires and they are one of the only manufacturers to make a 275/35-18. 245/40-18 is probably a better size all the way around but since my rims are staggered, I might as well have wider tires in the rear since I can't rotate them anyway. Not much of a difference in performance and the wider tires look better.
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