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The new Wagon the US will not see

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Old 03-16-2010 | 01:01 PM
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http://jalopnik.com/5492791/2011-bmw...well-never-get
Old 03-16-2010 | 02:37 PM
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Yeah we know we know. We in the US get the GT instead:
Old 03-16-2010 | 03:14 PM
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Sorry!
Just the 1st real pics of the F11 I saw.
Old 03-17-2010 | 07:11 AM
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Yeah this has been posted ad nosium in the main forum and the F10 forum since last November.

The un swirl wrapped picts have been floating around for a month at least.
Old 03-17-2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbadbull
The un swirl wrapped picts have been floating around for a month at least.
I do spend way too much time on these forums: I read 'The un swirl flapped picts have been .....'

On topic: what a beautiful touring it is, misses the somewhat bland look the sedan has. If I was a US based firm I would be importing them by the shipload. Plenty of takers I'll bet...
Old 03-17-2010 | 09:20 AM
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Kenny - thanks for posting. Hadn't seen the Jalopnik article.
Old 03-18-2010 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Theo
I do spend way too much time on these forums: I read 'The un swirl flapped picts have been .....'

On topic: what a beautiful touring it is, misses the somewhat bland look the sedan has. If I was a US based firm I would be importing them by the shipload. Plenty of takers I'll bet...

I think that is easier said than done. Car builders have to jump through very expensive and complicated governmental processes to certify car in the USA (crash testing, emmisions etc) to be allowed to sell the car in the US market and until you have those permissions, you cannot import any model of car. It does not matter how similar the car is to the German model (ie F11) or that the F11 is based on the F10 (sedan), the government makes you do it all over again. It would be very expensive for an importer to buy Euro spec F11s 535 Touring models and then legally jump through all the hoops to sell them in the USA and make a profit. The cars would be so expensive, nobody would buy it.

Maybe BMW will recognize their folly or this is a ploy to try and boost sales of the GT for a few years and they will offer the wagon in 2011 or 2012. Only time will tell.
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that is SOOO much nicer than the UGLY GT!!
Old 03-19-2010 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu3
I think that is easier said than done. Car builders have to jump through very expensive and complicated governmental processes to certify car in the USA (crash testing, emmisions etc) to be allowed to sell the car in the US market and until you have those permissions, you cannot import any model of car. It does not matter how similar the car is to the German model (ie F11) or that the F11 is based on the F10 (sedan), the government makes you do it all over again. It would be very expensive for an importer to buy Euro spec F11s 535 Touring models and then legally jump through all the hoops to sell them in the USA and make a profit. The cars would be so expensive, nobody would buy it.

Maybe BMW will recognize their folly or this is a ploy to try and boost sales of the GT for a few years and they will offer the wagon in 2011 or 2012. Only time will tell.
Hello Stu,

Not sure what the procedures are stateside but I know the other way 'round the paperwork is manageable at least. Here you'll get an extensive or simple type certificate review when the model is not officially certified by the manufacturer. Even the extensive procedure is not that complex, A trader can use this routing as well as individual consumers. This entire point may be moot though when importing instead of exporting...
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The problem here is not with BMW but with US car buyers. US car buyers do not buy station wagons in large numbers. Rather, those who want extra cargo space buy tall cars. That is why we are getting the ugly ass GT instead of the gorgeous F11. I hope that the GT bombs. Maybe that will spur BMW to bring to F11 to US shores.


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