New to the E60/E61. Coming from E39. Thought I'd say hi.
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Hello,
Two days ago, I picked up an E61 (Monaco Blue Metallic / Cream beige w/ sport wheel and "night vision".
Planning on doing CIC upgrade, and will order parts for that in a week or so. Also considering HUD upgrade, but not sure if I'll get ~5K worth of use out it.
Planned:
- M5 bumpers, moldings, and mirrors. Not planning on fenders.
- E60 oil cooler
- COBB access port tune (so I can remove it if I choose to)
- HDD to SSD conversion on CIC
- Black kidneys
- DINAN exhaust
- Coilovers
- Wheels (Lookling at Avarus AV12's)
IIRC, Umnitza has the body parts, so once I get space, that will be my 4th order. COBB and oil cooler are 2nd & 3rd. Bentley manuals were #1.
*yawn* Do yourself a favor and don't work a 12 hour day after driving for ~700 miles.
Pics to come after she gets a bath. Drive from Baltimore, MD to Seattle, WA. She's a mess...
Two days ago, I picked up an E61 (Monaco Blue Metallic / Cream beige w/ sport wheel and "night vision".
Planning on doing CIC upgrade, and will order parts for that in a week or so. Also considering HUD upgrade, but not sure if I'll get ~5K worth of use out it.
Planned:
- M5 bumpers, moldings, and mirrors. Not planning on fenders.
- E60 oil cooler
- COBB access port tune (so I can remove it if I choose to)
- HDD to SSD conversion on CIC
- Black kidneys
- DINAN exhaust
- Coilovers
- Wheels (Lookling at Avarus AV12's)
IIRC, Umnitza has the body parts, so once I get space, that will be my 4th order. COBB and oil cooler are 2nd & 3rd. Bentley manuals were #1.
*yawn* Do yourself a favor and don't work a 12 hour day after driving for ~700 miles.
Pics to come after she gets a bath. Drive from Baltimore, MD to Seattle, WA. She's a mess...
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From what I understand, there is no oil cooler in the E61, sport package or not. If I plan on doing a tune, be it Cobb or Dinan, an oil cooler is required.
And it may get tracked. Possibly. In the future. Maybe...
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Cobb (and I highly doubt Dinan) does not require an oil cooler for a tune on this car. Or even on the 335. I've been running a Cobb tune for two years on this car, and a few more on a 335, so I should know.
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Here's a chart explaining what you need for various stage maps:
It's the same for all ECU s/w versions
And go ahead read the map notes even:
Cobb Map Notes
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I have to say you're wrong. Care to link where you got that info from?
Cobb (and I highly doubt Dinan) does not require an oil cooler for a tune on this car. Or even on the 335. I've been running a Cobb tune for two years on this car, and a few more on a 335, so I should know.
Here's a chart explaining what you need for various stage maps:
It's the same for all ECU s/w versions
And go ahead read the map notes even:
Cobb Map Notes
Cobb (and I highly doubt Dinan) does not require an oil cooler for a tune on this car. Or even on the 335. I've been running a Cobb tune for two years on this car, and a few more on a 335, so I should know.
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Here's a chart explaining what you need for various stage maps:
It's the same for all ECU s/w versions
And go ahead read the map notes even:
Cobb Map Notes
From Dinan's website, notes for stage 2 software upgrade:
Peak Horsepower378 horsepower at 5700 rpmPeak Torque415 lb-ft torque at 4300 rpmRequired ItemsOil-Cooler Required
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I don't know why they'd require it at those power levels. But as you point out, that's stage 2, not stage 1, which is the default. It's like saying Cobb requires a FMIC for their stage 1+ tune. Or downpipes for their stage 2 tune. Of course at the higher levels extra hardware is required. But for a first stage tune, which is what the discussion here was about, you don't / shouldn't need an oil cooler.
It makes no sense to get a Dinan tune anyway, if you're out of warranty, since the only reason to pay a premium for their tune is the warranty they offer in case something breaks during your OEM warranty. 4 years ago, they were the only flash tune option. But now, for less than half its cost, you can buy a Cobb that does way more, and you can sell it after! It's a no brainer IMO. And no oil cooler required.
Do as you wish though.
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E39 (M5) --> E61 ...I did the same thing. Hard to beat an E39 M5 but once I fix the hicccups I am having with my wagon and dump the stupid AT for a proper manual, I think it will really transform the car. Anyway, welcome.
Isn't an oil cooler built into the radiator? There are lines running from the T-stat into the back of it.
There is also a Transmission Oil Cooler located in front of the intercooler.
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Isn't an oil cooler built into the radiator? There are lines running from the T-stat into the back of it.
There is also a Transmission Oil Cooler located in front of the intercooler.
Evan
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E39 (M5) --> E61 ...I did the same thing. Hard to beat an E39 M5 but once I fix the hicccups I am having with my wagon and dump the stupid AT for a proper manual, I think it will really transform the car. Anyway, welcome. Isn't an oil cooler built into the radiator? There are lines running from the T-stat into the back of it. There is also a Transmission Oil Cooler located in front of the intercooler. Evan
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A good amount of work but not impossible from what I hear. If you are decent with cars/BMWs, have the proper tools, and can code it should be doable. I plan on doing it myself once I am capable. No need to shell out a couple grand for someone else to do it.
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