M5 rims on e61 xDrive
03-27-2009 | 05:09 AM
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Hello,
anyone has an idea if that's possible? Since xDrive is there you can't use different front/back rims. Is that correct?
What is the best information source for this?
Thanks.
anyone has an idea if that's possible? Since xDrive is there you can't use different front/back rims. Is that correct?
What is the best information source for this?
Thanks.
03-27-2009 | 07:03 AM
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The best information source would have to be C's Bimmer...from my understanding you would have to use the four front wheels all around on an xdrive meaning 19 x 8.5's all around. check this link.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=735257
hope this helps
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=735257
hope this helps
03-27-2009 | 07:57 AM
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02NP M Light-alloy wheels double spoke 135 M with runflat
0203 4-Traction System
0205 Automatic transmission
0216 Servotronic Steering
0300 Space Saver Wheel
0316 Automatic tailgate operation
0320 Without Script Name Plate
0322 Comfort access system
0337 M sport package
0386 Roof Railing
04M3 Interior trim finishers Alu Cube Pure
0417 Side window Sun Blind, Rear Door, Mechanical
0423 Velour floor mats
0428 Warning Triangle/First Aid Kit
0430 Automatic Dimming Interior Rearview Mirror
0431 Interior Mirror (photo-sensitive)
0442 Beverage Holder
0453 Air Conditioned Seat Front
0456 Electrical Adjustable Comfort Seats
0502 Headlight Washing System
0508 Park Distance Control (PDC)
0522 Xenon Headlights
0524 Adaptive driving Lights Control
0534 Automatic Air Conditioning
0540 Multifunction Steering Wheel Include. Cruise Control
0548 Speedometer in Kilometers per Hour
0563 Lights package
0609 Navigation System Professional w/TV and On-board Computer
0672 BMW 6-Disc CD Changer
0676 Premium Audio System
0698 Area Code 2 For DVD
0710 M Style Leather Steering Wheel
0715 M Aerodynamic Package
0760 Individual High-gloss Shadowline
0761 Individual Sun-Protection Glazing
0775 Individual Roof Headlining Anthracite
08SA Country-specific TeleService activation
08SP CO2 Emissions Control
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Originally Posted by 09535xit' post='828110' date='Mar 27 2009, 03:03 PM
The best information source would have to be C's Bimmer...from my understanding you would have to use the four front wheels all around on an xdrive meaning 19 x 8.5's all around. check this link.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=735257
hope this helps
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=735257
hope this helps
03-27-2009 | 08:24 AM
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My dealer told me that you can't run a staggered setup on the E61 no matter if it has X-drive or not. So I guess 4 frontwheels are the best solution.
03-27-2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hafnia' post='828175' date='Mar 27 2009, 05:24 PM
My dealer told me that you can't run a staggered setup on the E61 no matter if it has X-drive or not.
03-27-2009 | 08:39 AM
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Gents - Here is the scoop.
First off, you can absolutely run staggered on an XI model. However, it's more suited for the sedan, rather than the wagon. How? Take a look at this link:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=36&fg=15
What you are looking for specifically in the link above are the offsets and widths. As you can clearly see, this is a staggered set-up on an XI. Now, when you compare the STANDARD 124's on a normal, RWD E60, you will see that the offsets are much lower. This is the difference between an XI and a standard RWD model.
Here's the link for the standard, RWD wheels:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=36&fg=15
Now, take a look at this link. This is for the WAGON. Please note how there is no staggered offered. Why? The rear wheel well on the wagon is different than the sedan. Because of self-leveling, there is less room inside the well, which makes for a different offset that would be required to run staggered.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=36&fg=15
So, the question is, is it possible to run staggered on an XI WAGON? Yes, it is. However, the offset would need to be fairly high to prevent any rubbing inside the well and without protruding beyond the fender flares on the outside. On a sedan, an ET32 offset in the rear would actually be great (it's the front's that wouldn't work). However, on the wagon, you will need a higher offset than this because of the tighter space.
Here is another tool to use. Specs on the stock XI's (front specs only) is ET43 and width is: 8".
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
And just to throw a wrench into everything, my X5 has self-leveling and came with the 20" staggered wheels (275's up front and 315's in the rear). How is that possible, if we compare it to the wagon? Take a look at the wheel wells of the X5 versus an E61's rear wheel well with self-leveling.
First off, you can absolutely run staggered on an XI model. However, it's more suited for the sedan, rather than the wagon. How? Take a look at this link:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=36&fg=15
What you are looking for specifically in the link above are the offsets and widths. As you can clearly see, this is a staggered set-up on an XI. Now, when you compare the STANDARD 124's on a normal, RWD E60, you will see that the offsets are much lower. This is the difference between an XI and a standard RWD model.
Here's the link for the standard, RWD wheels:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=36&fg=15
Now, take a look at this link. This is for the WAGON. Please note how there is no staggered offered. Why? The rear wheel well on the wagon is different than the sedan. Because of self-leveling, there is less room inside the well, which makes for a different offset that would be required to run staggered.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=36&fg=15
So, the question is, is it possible to run staggered on an XI WAGON? Yes, it is. However, the offset would need to be fairly high to prevent any rubbing inside the well and without protruding beyond the fender flares on the outside. On a sedan, an ET32 offset in the rear would actually be great (it's the front's that wouldn't work). However, on the wagon, you will need a higher offset than this because of the tighter space.
Here is another tool to use. Specs on the stock XI's (front specs only) is ET43 and width is: 8".
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
And just to throw a wrench into everything, my X5 has self-leveling and came with the 20" staggered wheels (275's up front and 315's in the rear). How is that possible, if we compare it to the wagon? Take a look at the wheel wells of the X5 versus an E61's rear wheel well with self-leveling.
03-27-2009 | 08:49 AM
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C's Bimmer: your post should be stickied in the E61 Discussion forum. 
Excellent information.
Excellent information.
03-27-2009 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='828197' date='Mar 27 2009, 11:49 AM
C's Bimmer: your post should be stickied in the E61 Discussion forum.
Excellent information.
Excellent information.
If you search on my posts regarding what wheels will work for the XI Sedan/Wagon, you will notice a trend...a lot of redundancy
03-27-2009 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='828203' date='Mar 27 2009, 05:54 PM
Ha! Thanks Patrick.
If you search on my posts regarding what wheels will work for the XI Sedan/Wagon, you will notice a trend...a lot of redundancy
If you search on my posts regarding what wheels will work for the XI Sedan/Wagon, you will notice a trend...a lot of redundancy
Yes, this issue (xi + wheel sizes) is a repeat offender on several message boards... But your post above covers all the angles!
03-27-2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='828197' date='Mar 27 2009, 10:49 AM
C's Bimmer: your post should be stickied in the E61 Discussion forum.
Excellent information.
Excellent information.
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