520d consumption: how much does your car ?
08-02-2006, 10:13 AM
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My 535D tourer want 7l/100km when I set the cruise to 120km/h. Mixed driving with 70% highway and rest in city wants 9l/100km.
I have now driven it 17500km and I have seen a trend that the consumption have dropped a little the last 2000km.
I have now driven it 17500km and I have seen a trend that the consumption have dropped a little the last 2000km.
08-02-2006, 11:49 AM
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Diesels of today consume more than two year old cars due to particle filters and emission regulations, which causes more diesel to be used in some circumstances (warm-up cycles etc).
This fact makes it difficult to compare MY04 and MY06 diesels and is a reason why many e39 530d owners get consumption levels equal to the 520d today.
My 525iT petrol manual averaged 11 l/100 during 18 months of ownership, I expect the 520d to stay between 7,5 and 8 l/100.
Compared to cars in the same class (weight, size, capacity, gearbox) these figures are normal.
/M
This fact makes it difficult to compare MY04 and MY06 diesels and is a reason why many e39 530d owners get consumption levels equal to the 520d today.
My 525iT petrol manual averaged 11 l/100 during 18 months of ownership, I expect the 520d to stay between 7,5 and 8 l/100.
Compared to cars in the same class (weight, size, capacity, gearbox) these figures are normal.
/M
Originally Posted by e61alex' post='318162' date='Aug 2 2006, 06:56 PM
Now I am sure there is something going wrong with my car: isn't still true that automatic gearbox has more friction and that car drinks more fuel than a similar with manual gearbox ?
I am quite unhappy with this... when I bought my car I chose a 520d because of its low consumption, and now I realize it drinks like my previous merc E320 CDI t-model year 2004 that had automatic gearbox, a 3.2L diesel engine 6 cylinders w/204 HP...
I am unhappy also with some BMW low quality parts:
before the first 900 Km I had the car stopped for one week because the rear planetary was faulty;
near the first 7000 Km I had the car stopped for more than three weeks because of a steering corner sensor that knock out DTS: such sensor was available nowhere, neither in Germany...
Now I think I'll try to contact directly customer service in BMW, jumping directly after the dealer - that says "it's all ok, we seen no alarms on your car's onboard diagnosys system". -
Thank you everyone who write on this topic.
I am quite unhappy with this... when I bought my car I chose a 520d because of its low consumption, and now I realize it drinks like my previous merc E320 CDI t-model year 2004 that had automatic gearbox, a 3.2L diesel engine 6 cylinders w/204 HP...
I am unhappy also with some BMW low quality parts:
before the first 900 Km I had the car stopped for one week because the rear planetary was faulty;
near the first 7000 Km I had the car stopped for more than three weeks because of a steering corner sensor that knock out DTS: such sensor was available nowhere, neither in Germany...
Now I think I'll try to contact directly customer service in BMW, jumping directly after the dealer - that says "it's all ok, we seen no alarms on your car's onboard diagnosys system". -
Thank you everyone who write on this topic.
08-02-2006, 12:16 PM
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Hi Tegel,
I don't know why my E61 MY2006, identical to yours except for manual gearbox, has a so lower economy fuel than yours... I buyed that car on 29 march of this year, new.
Did you measured only fuel consumption on your onboard computer or did you else measured liters putted and odometer run?
I don't know why my E61 MY2006, identical to yours except for manual gearbox, has a so lower economy fuel than yours... I buyed that car on 29 march of this year, new.
Did you measured only fuel consumption on your onboard computer or did you else measured liters putted and odometer run?
Originally Posted by tegel' post='318254' date='Aug 2 2006, 09:49 PM
Diesels of today consume more than two year old cars due to particle filters and emission regulations, which causes more diesel to be used in some circumstances (warm-up cycles etc).
This fact makes it difficult to compare MY04 and MY06 diesels and is a reason why many e39 530d owners get consumption levels equal to the 520d today.
My 525iT petrol manual averaged 11 l/100 during 18 months of ownership, I expect the 520d to stay between 7,5 and 8 l/100.
Compared to cars in the same class (weight, size, capacity, gearbox) these figures are normal.
/M
This fact makes it difficult to compare MY04 and MY06 diesels and is a reason why many e39 530d owners get consumption levels equal to the 520d today.
My 525iT petrol manual averaged 11 l/100 during 18 months of ownership, I expect the 520d to stay between 7,5 and 8 l/100.
Compared to cars in the same class (weight, size, capacity, gearbox) these figures are normal.
/M
08-03-2006, 02:14 AM
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Hi,
I have filled the car up three times since I bought it.
1. 7,9 l/100
2. 8,3 l/100
3. 7,5 l/100
The figure 7,1 comes from the OBC but this has probably been reset on different occasions. To sum up, between fill-ups, the car is currently averaging 7,9 l/100. Similar to what our Audi A2 petrol was drinking.
Will be interesting to see end - of - year average!
/M
I have filled the car up three times since I bought it.
1. 7,9 l/100
2. 8,3 l/100
3. 7,5 l/100
The figure 7,1 comes from the OBC but this has probably been reset on different occasions. To sum up, between fill-ups, the car is currently averaging 7,9 l/100. Similar to what our Audi A2 petrol was drinking.
Will be interesting to see end - of - year average!
/M
Originally Posted by e61alex' post='318275' date='Aug 2 2006, 10:16 PM
Hi Tegel,
I don't know why my E61 MY2006, identical to yours except for manual gearbox, has a so lower economy fuel than yours... I buyed that car on 29 march of this year, new.
Did you measured only fuel consumption on your onboard computer or did you else measured liters putted and odometer run?
I don't know why my E61 MY2006, identical to yours except for manual gearbox, has a so lower economy fuel than yours... I buyed that car on 29 march of this year, new.
Did you measured only fuel consumption on your onboard computer or did you else measured liters putted and odometer run?
08-03-2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Matts' post='317600' date='Aug 1 2006, 03:18 PM
I just had a look at the BMW fact sheet. BMW states 6.1 l/100km for the 520d touring, you need 7,4.
If I drive in a way may wife calls "reasonable"
, I have a consumption of something about 7,3 l/100km, the official number is 6,7 for the 530d Sedan.
For the 535d they state 8,2 l/100km which is a little bit less than the 8,9l dlevy67 needs.
This would indicate that indeed the consumption of your car is a bit too high.
On the other hand, driving the Touring I always had the feeling (without any exact measurement) that it has a clearly higher consumption than the Sedan. At least more than the 0,2 - 0,3 l/100km that BMW officially says it should be.
Hard facts anyone?
If I drive in a way may wife calls "reasonable"
, I have a consumption of something about 7,3 l/100km, the official number is 6,7 for the 530d Sedan. For the 535d they state 8,2 l/100km which is a little bit less than the 8,9l dlevy67 needs.
This would indicate that indeed the consumption of your car is a bit too high.
On the other hand, driving the Touring I always had the feeling (without any exact measurement) that it has a clearly higher consumption than the Sedan. At least more than the 0,2 - 0,3 l/100km that BMW officially says it should be.
Hard facts anyone?
For what it's worth, I get better economy when I don't use cruise control; I am able to ensure that the 'mpg' needle stays over the 50mpg mark and try not to let it go below 30mpg too often. You will find that cruise control delivers constant throttle whereas controlling this manually allows you to lift off the throttle when not required such as going down hills/inclines.
My advice is you are looking for maximum econonmy and the best average fuel consumption: don't use cruise control.
Also, whilst you said that you don't have the roof bars or any other 'non-aerodynamic' accessories, it's worth noting, that I saw a drop of approximately 5mpg in average fuel consumption with the Thule Aero roof bars fitted and the Thule bike carrier. The roof bars on their own don't seem to make much difference, but I was surprised at how much difference the bike carriers (2) made even though I wasn't carrying any bikes at the time.
You will also find that fue consumption gets better as you cover more miles. However, given that you appear to have covered more miles than I have I would've expected you to get pretty decent fuel economy; perhaps you have a cause for concern?
08-03-2006, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gIzzE' post='317807' date='Aug 1 2006, 11:34 PM
After 36k miles I am showing 10.3L/100km on my 535d, and I would expect around 7L/100 at the very best for a 520d.
I only found my 320d to be around 1.5L more efficiant than the 330d, so don't think the mpg figures in real world driving are going to be that different between 520d, 525d, 530d and 535d drivers, maybe 1L between each at the most.
Also if I really drive mine hard I get about 350 miles from a tank, if I take it really easy I get around 385 miles out of a tank, and to be honest I am going to enjoy the car rather than worry about trying to squeeze an extra 35 miles out of my car each week. We are talking about a saving of what? ?15 a week? With the repayments, insurance, tax, tolls and depeciation the car is costing me ?1100 a month, so I really can't see the point of worrying about cosumption, it spoils the fun!
I only found my 320d to be around 1.5L more efficiant than the 330d, so don't think the mpg figures in real world driving are going to be that different between 520d, 525d, 530d and 535d drivers, maybe 1L between each at the most.
Also if I really drive mine hard I get about 350 miles from a tank, if I take it really easy I get around 385 miles out of a tank, and to be honest I am going to enjoy the car rather than worry about trying to squeeze an extra 35 miles out of my car each week. We are talking about a saving of what? ?15 a week? With the repayments, insurance, tax, tolls and depeciation the car is costing me ?1100 a month, so I really can't see the point of worrying about cosumption, it spoils the fun!
08-04-2006, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sguilliard' post='318760' date='Aug 4 2006, 12:55 AM
I would say there's quite a big difference between the 520d and the 535d then; I regularly get more than 600 miles out of a full tank.
There is more difference between the manual and the auto though. I averaged 32mpg out of my 320d auto over 40 odd thousand miles, and a week crusing in the scottish highlands only managed 39mpg, where as in the 330d manual I could get 40+ mpg all day long, and I could get 50mpg if I was crusing around.
08-04-2006, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by e61alex' post='318162' date='Aug 2 2006, 05:56 PM
Now I am sure there is something going wrong with my car: isn't still true that automatic gearbox has more friction and that car drinks more fuel than a similar with manual gearbox ?
08-05-2006, 01:11 PM
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My Ride: e39 525i Touring, will order e61 as soon as I can decide on engine and options...
Came back a few moments ago from a 800 km trip west - east and back (Gothenburg > V?stervik). Average consumption 6.4 l/100, average speed 88 km/h. Did not have to fill the tank even once :-)
Had a lot of fun overtaking, the car is really agile 80 - 140 km/h and the auto is such a timesaver when overtaking, just press the pedal to the floor and the car goes. Fast.
Good night.
/M
Had a lot of fun overtaking, the car is really agile 80 - 140 km/h and the auto is such a timesaver when overtaking, just press the pedal to the floor and the car goes. Fast.
Good night.
/M
Originally Posted by colejl' post='318888' date='Aug 4 2006, 02:04 PM
Diesel's seem to suffer more with automatic transmission than petrols... However, it's not the friction that wastes the fuel it's the torque converter that actually 'spins away' engine revs... (i.e. the engine is going faster than it needs to!) Once up to speed the transmission locks and it's a direct drive. Lots of city/urban driving is not good...
08-06-2006, 04:23 AM
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My Ride: e39 525i Touring, will order e61 as soon as I can decide on engine and options...
Ok, filled the car now. Data: OBC 6,6 l /100 km. Real life measured at the pump: 7,2 l/100 km.
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