Why is new M5 better than E55?
02-11-2005, 01:07 AM
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can't answer you this question now since the m5 is still not here yet. so it's more like "why is 530 better than e320?" or "why is 545 better than e500?". and i can pretty much predict the answers from our beloved members 
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02-11-2005, 01:23 AM
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My Ride: 530iA Silver Grey , black interior. Premium Package, Navigation System, Head-up Display, Radio Satellite, Adaptive Xenon Headlights. AC Schnitzer Front Lip, H&R springs, Rear red reflector, All season Floor mat,
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02-11-2005, 07:19 AM
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read this: Road Test: 2005 BMW M5 vs. 2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/luxury/112_0412_bmw_mb/
2005 BMW M5 2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
Powertrain/Chassis
Drivetrain layout Front engine, RWD Front engine, RWD
Engine type 90? V-10, alum block & heads Supercharged 90* V-8, alum block and heads
Valve gear DOHC, 4 valves/cyl, variable SOHC, 3 valves/cyl
Bore x stroke, in/mm 3.62 x 2.96 / 92.0 x 75.2 3.82 x 3.62 / 97.0 x 92.0
Displacement, ci/cc 305.1 / 4999 331.9 / 5439
Compression ratio 12.0:1 9.0:1
Max SAE net horsepower 500 @ 7750 rpm 469 @ 6100 rpm
Max SAE net torque, lb-ft 384 @ 6100 rpm 516 @ 2650 rpm
Specific output, hp/liter 100.0 82.6
Weight to power, lb/hp 8.1 8.7
Redline, rpm 8250 6100
Transmission 7-speed auto-clutch manual 5-speed automatic
Axle/final-drive ratio:1 3.62 / 3.02 2.65 / 2.19
Suspension, front; rear Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks anti-roll bar Multilink, air springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, air springs, anti-roll bar
Brakes, f;r 14.7-in vented disc; 14.6-in vented disc, ABS 14.2-in vented disc; 13.0-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r 19 x 8.5; 19 x 9.5 cast aluminum 18 x 8.0; 18 x 9.0 cast aluminum
Tires, f;r 255/40ZR19; 285/35ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 245/40ZR18; 265/35ZR18 Continental SportContact 2
Dimensions
Wheelbase, in 113.7 112.4
Track, f/r, in 62.2 / 61.7 62.3 / 61.1
Length, in 191.1 190.9
Width, in 72.7 71.3
Height, in 57.8 57.0
Turning circle, ft 40.7 37.4
Curb weight, lb (mfr) 4050 4100
Weight dist, f/r, % 51 / 49 53 / 47
Seating capacity 5 5
Headroom, in 37.7 / 37.9 37.4 / 37.7
Legroom, in 41.5 / 36.0 43.6 / 27.1
Shoulder room, in 57.3 / 57.2 56.4 / 56.1
Cargo capacity, cu ft 14.0 15.9
Test Data
0-60 mph, sec 4.5 (est) 4.2
0-100 mph 10.0 (est) 9.7
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 12.6 @ 115 (est) 12.4 @ 116.2
Consumer Info
On sale in U.S. Fall 2005 Currently
Base price (incl dest) $82,000 (est) $81,920
Price as tested Not available $81,920
Stability/traction control Yes / yes Yes / yes
Airbags Front/rear side, Front/rear side, front/rear head front/rear head
Basic warranty To be determined 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Powertrain warranty To be determined 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Fuel capacity, gal 18.5 20.6
EPA mpg, city/hwy Not yet rated 14 / 20
Recommended fuel Unleaded premium Unleaded premium
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/luxury/112_0412_bmw_mb/
2005 BMW M5 2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
Powertrain/Chassis
Drivetrain layout Front engine, RWD Front engine, RWD
Engine type 90? V-10, alum block & heads Supercharged 90* V-8, alum block and heads
Valve gear DOHC, 4 valves/cyl, variable SOHC, 3 valves/cyl
Bore x stroke, in/mm 3.62 x 2.96 / 92.0 x 75.2 3.82 x 3.62 / 97.0 x 92.0
Displacement, ci/cc 305.1 / 4999 331.9 / 5439
Compression ratio 12.0:1 9.0:1
Max SAE net horsepower 500 @ 7750 rpm 469 @ 6100 rpm
Max SAE net torque, lb-ft 384 @ 6100 rpm 516 @ 2650 rpm
Specific output, hp/liter 100.0 82.6
Weight to power, lb/hp 8.1 8.7
Redline, rpm 8250 6100
Transmission 7-speed auto-clutch manual 5-speed automatic
Axle/final-drive ratio:1 3.62 / 3.02 2.65 / 2.19
Suspension, front; rear Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks anti-roll bar Multilink, air springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, air springs, anti-roll bar
Brakes, f;r 14.7-in vented disc; 14.6-in vented disc, ABS 14.2-in vented disc; 13.0-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r 19 x 8.5; 19 x 9.5 cast aluminum 18 x 8.0; 18 x 9.0 cast aluminum
Tires, f;r 255/40ZR19; 285/35ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 245/40ZR18; 265/35ZR18 Continental SportContact 2
Dimensions
Wheelbase, in 113.7 112.4
Track, f/r, in 62.2 / 61.7 62.3 / 61.1
Length, in 191.1 190.9
Width, in 72.7 71.3
Height, in 57.8 57.0
Turning circle, ft 40.7 37.4
Curb weight, lb (mfr) 4050 4100
Weight dist, f/r, % 51 / 49 53 / 47
Seating capacity 5 5
Headroom, in 37.7 / 37.9 37.4 / 37.7
Legroom, in 41.5 / 36.0 43.6 / 27.1
Shoulder room, in 57.3 / 57.2 56.4 / 56.1
Cargo capacity, cu ft 14.0 15.9
Test Data
0-60 mph, sec 4.5 (est) 4.2
0-100 mph 10.0 (est) 9.7
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 12.6 @ 115 (est) 12.4 @ 116.2
Consumer Info
On sale in U.S. Fall 2005 Currently
Base price (incl dest) $82,000 (est) $81,920
Price as tested Not available $81,920
Stability/traction control Yes / yes Yes / yes
Airbags Front/rear side, Front/rear side, front/rear head front/rear head
Basic warranty To be determined 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Powertrain warranty To be determined 4 yrs/50,000 miles
Fuel capacity, gal 18.5 20.6
EPA mpg, city/hwy Not yet rated 14 / 20
Recommended fuel Unleaded premium Unleaded premium
02-11-2005, 04:04 PM
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lol I know its a premature question to ask I was just wondering what you guys thought based on reviews and the 1 or 2 photos youve seen online.
My opinion is that E55 needs a supercharger to achieve the torque it has. The interior looks poopy and the exterior is nothing special. I miss the old E55 though, that was a beast when it came out--but then again so was the m5.
E320 VS 530 is no comparsion. Just drive an E320 and a C320, whats the difference? Bubble lights and a longer car. Mercedes is trash and chrysler is to blame
My opinion is that E55 needs a supercharger to achieve the torque it has. The interior looks poopy and the exterior is nothing special. I miss the old E55 though, that was a beast when it came out--but then again so was the m5.
E320 VS 530 is no comparsion. Just drive an E320 and a C320, whats the difference? Bubble lights and a longer car. Mercedes is trash and chrysler is to blame
02-12-2005, 05:24 PM
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My Ride: 2005 545 smg sport, black sapphire, beige dakotah interior, poplar trim, cold weather pkg, comfort ventilated seats, logic 7 premium sound, nav, hud, sunshades, fold-down rear seats, satellite radio
The answer lies in the handling of the car. I drove the e55--straightaway, great power and acceleration, but the brakes are spongy and the car is too heavy--an absolute pig around the corners. It is a powerful sedan, but it is not a sport sedan like the M5 or the 545.
02-13-2005, 06:37 AM
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My Ride: '05 545i, silver gray, black leather with anthracite maple wood, sport package, premium sound, navigation, cold weather package, electric rear sunshade, folding rear seat, satellite radio prep, PIAA 4150K fogs, red rear reflectors, hardwired Valentine One
I haven't driven the new M5, but I had a '03 E55, so I'll give you my perspective on that car. The E55 has tremendous power (469 HP & 516 lb/ft of torque) and is scary fast in a straight line. I'd go so far as to say it has too much power for the car (suspension, tires, etc.) to handle. That's the good news. The bad news is the brakes (although they are huge Brembos) are horrible. The E55 uses the same brake-by-wire system as on the SLs, and the pedal feel is very unnatural and non-linear--almost like an on/off switch. I absolutely hated them. The steering is numb and the handling is terrible--even for a 4,200 lb sedan. I sold it after 4 months.
I enjoy driving my 545i so much more than the E55. And I don't get all those rice rockets wanting to race me at every stop light!
I enjoy driving my 545i so much more than the E55. And I don't get all those rice rockets wanting to race me at every stop light!