They said the car w/o limiter could hit 204...
03-27-2010, 08:26 AM
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I have real trouble believing that a M5 (at least one that's stock with 500 bhp) can hit an actual 211 mph as opposed to an indicated 211 caused by speedomter error. This month, one of the major car mags topped out a ZR1, with 638 bhp, at an actual, verified, drag-limited, top speed of 205. 500 bhp is not enough IMHO to hit 211.
03-28-2010, 09:52 PM
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I have real trouble believing that a M5 (at least one that's stock with 500 bhp) can hit an actual 211 mph as opposed to an indicated 211 caused by speedomter error. This month, one of the major car mags topped out a ZR1, with 638 bhp, at an actual, verified, drag-limited, top speed of 205. 500 bhp is not enough IMHO to hit 211.
Maybeee but I know that delimited the M5 can hit 204 vmax...it's an amazing car.
03-29-2010, 04:03 AM
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Still, 204.205 is an astonishing velocity for a car with "only" 500 bhp and with a sedan body. I generally think of cars needing more like 600 bhp to break 200 mph. It is an incredible engineering feat for BMW to build a sedan with such a high top speed. I can only only what the F10 M5's top speed will be, given that it is likely going to bring somewhere about 570-600 bhp to the table.
I just read one of the major car mags which, this month, did a top speed test of the new 911 Turbo and it could not break the 200 mph barrier with a top speed limited by the car's gearing -- not aerodynamic drag. I'll a little surprised that Porsche wouldn't give its top dog a gear capable of running the car's top speed out to the point where it was drag limited. In the same test, the Corvette ZR1, with 638 bhp, hit a drag-limited 205, which makes the considerably less powerful E60 M5's delimited top speed all the most amazing.
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That's true. Posts on the M5board indicate that 204/205 is the actual delimited top speed and that there is considerable spedometer error at high speeds with indicated speeds as much as 8% higher than the actual speeds.
Still, 204.205 is an astonishing velocity for a car with "only" 500 bhp and with a sedan body. I generally think of cars needing more like 600 bhp to break 200 mph. It is an incredible engineering feat for BMW to build a sedan with such a high top speed. I can only only what the F10 M5's top speed will be, given that it is likely going to bring somewhere about 570-600 bhp to the table.
I just read one of the major car mags which, this month, did a top speed test of the new 911 Turbo and it could not break the 200 mph barrier with a top speed limited by the car's gearing -- not aerodynamic drag. I'll a little surprised that Porsche wouldn't give its top dog a gear capable of running the car's top speed out to the point where it was drag limited. In the same test, the Corvette ZR1, with 638 bhp, hit a drag-limited 205, which makes the considerably less powerful E60 M5's delimited top speed all the most amazing.
Still, 204.205 is an astonishing velocity for a car with "only" 500 bhp and with a sedan body. I generally think of cars needing more like 600 bhp to break 200 mph. It is an incredible engineering feat for BMW to build a sedan with such a high top speed. I can only only what the F10 M5's top speed will be, given that it is likely going to bring somewhere about 570-600 bhp to the table.
I just read one of the major car mags which, this month, did a top speed test of the new 911 Turbo and it could not break the 200 mph barrier with a top speed limited by the car's gearing -- not aerodynamic drag. I'll a little surprised that Porsche wouldn't give its top dog a gear capable of running the car's top speed out to the point where it was drag limited. In the same test, the Corvette ZR1, with 638 bhp, hit a drag-limited 205, which makes the considerably less powerful E60 M5's delimited top speed all the most amazing.
03-29-2010, 06:03 AM
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Right, it's all down to gearing. That same Porsche does 0-60 in 3 seconds flat, more than a second faster than the M5. Porsche gears its cars for the real world - I'd trade gearing that let the car run slightly over 200mph for a set of ratios that delivers the unbelievable real world acceleration of the 911 Turbo.
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Hahaha well hey, if I had an M5, I wouldn't complain about it's estimated 4.5 0-60 times...(or it's 205 vmax)
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