new '08 M3 vs. E60 M5
12-19-2007, 11:49 AM
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Just got an emailed newsletter from my local BMW dealer and one of the topics was the new M3 coming out next year. An excerpt from the article read that:
"BMW says they confirmed that the new M3 significantly outperforms previous generations by track testing at the legendary Nordschleife of N?rburgring. It?s faster even than the V10-powered M5 sedan by a whopping 3.5 seconds per lap, a trouncing in racetrack terms."
That would really be quite a feat, would it not? Its interesting BMW would use the word "trouncing" when comparing its own cars.
I'm not trying to talk trash...just share the story.
http://www.imakenews.com/samswopebmw/e_art...bPbDSb,b5CcthQF
"BMW says they confirmed that the new M3 significantly outperforms previous generations by track testing at the legendary Nordschleife of N?rburgring. It?s faster even than the V10-powered M5 sedan by a whopping 3.5 seconds per lap, a trouncing in racetrack terms."
That would really be quite a feat, would it not? Its interesting BMW would use the word "trouncing" when comparing its own cars.
I'm not trying to talk trash...just share the story.
http://www.imakenews.com/samswopebmw/e_art...bPbDSb,b5CcthQF
12-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lawguy' post='508533' date='Dec 19 2007, 12:49 PM
Just got an emailed newsletter from my local BMW dealer and one of the topics was the new M3 coming out next year. An excerpt from the article read that:
"BMW says they confirmed that the new M3 significantly outperforms previous generations by track testing at the legendary Nordschleife of N?rburgring. It?s faster even than the V10-powered M5 sedan by a whopping 3.5 seconds per lap, a trouncing in racetrack terms."
That would really be quite a feat, would it not? Its interesting BMW would use the word "trouncing" when comparing its own cars.
I'm not trying to talk trash...just share the story.
http://www.imakenews.com/samswopebmw/e_art...bPbDSb,b5CcthQF
"BMW says they confirmed that the new M3 significantly outperforms previous generations by track testing at the legendary Nordschleife of N?rburgring. It?s faster even than the V10-powered M5 sedan by a whopping 3.5 seconds per lap, a trouncing in racetrack terms."
That would really be quite a feat, would it not? Its interesting BMW would use the word "trouncing" when comparing its own cars.
I'm not trying to talk trash...just share the story.
http://www.imakenews.com/samswopebmw/e_art...bPbDSb,b5CcthQF
12-19-2007, 12:42 PM
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The new M3's are more like mini-M5's, they are less involving than the previous M3's. The last true M3 was the E36 M3, in my opinion.
12-19-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lawguy' post='508533' date='Dec 19 2007, 03:49 PM
Just got an emailed newsletter from my local BMW dealer and one of the topics was the new M3 coming out next year. An excerpt from the article read that:
"BMW says they confirmed that the new M3 significantly outperforms previous generations by track testing at the legendary Nordschleife of N?rburgring. It?s faster even than the V10-powered M5 sedan by a whopping 3.5 seconds per lap, a trouncing in racetrack terms."
That would really be quite a feat, would it not? Its interesting BMW would use the word "trouncing" when comparing its own cars.
I'm not trying to talk trash...just share the story.
http://www.imakenews.com/samswopebmw/e_art...bPbDSb,b5CcthQF
"BMW says they confirmed that the new M3 significantly outperforms previous generations by track testing at the legendary Nordschleife of N?rburgring. It?s faster even than the V10-powered M5 sedan by a whopping 3.5 seconds per lap, a trouncing in racetrack terms."
That would really be quite a feat, would it not? Its interesting BMW would use the word "trouncing" when comparing its own cars.
I'm not trying to talk trash...just share the story.
http://www.imakenews.com/samswopebmw/e_art...bPbDSb,b5CcthQF
12-19-2007, 01:03 PM
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The new M3's are nice, even though the one I test drove was a manual. I image the DCT will be awesome. It should also out perform the M5 on a track as it's physically better suited for track than the M5. I'm of the opinion that comparing one to the other for track performance is just pointless as they are in different category of vehicles. The M3 should be compared to the traditional AUDI RS4, MB C63 etc. Further to that, if you want to be a bit ambitious, compare it to the Porsche Boxter or Carrera class...but I suspect the M3 will get trounced on the track even by a base Carrera.
Anyway, as far as super family sedans go, M5 is still king
...i'm trying not to be biased, ofcourse 
Anyway, as far as super family sedans go, M5 is still king
...i'm trying not to be biased, ofcourse
12-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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I think we are essentially saying the same thing...while I loved my M3 and probably would have gotten the new one if it was available, I drive on the street, not the track.
12-20-2007, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Heelsonwheels' post='508569' date='Dec 19 2007, 05:14 PM
I think we are essentially saying the same thing...while I loved my M3 and probably would have gotten the new one if it was available, I drive on the street, not the track.
As a new owner of an '08 ///M5, '06 650i, past tester of the E46 style ///M3 and owner of the E46 330Ci with performance package, and on the current list for the new '08 ///M3, we shall see who is 'KING'.
In my book the big dawg (V10) beats'em all since the ///M group always brings it's best to the ///M5 & ///M6. Of course this is my opinion based on some fact but all in all, each has its very own strong heritage and qualities which is the very reason I have all the toys and not just one.
12-20-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='508926' date='Dec 20 2007, 04:51 PM
The M5 is heavy and it isn't a news .
Man you are so obsessed with weight. That's why it has a 507bhp V10 engine!!! Do you know how much an F16 weighs? Do you know how much a space shuttle weighs? They are SO DAMN SLOW aren't they. Oh no, hang on, no they aren't! How can that be! they are heavy!
lol
12-20-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Russ1974' post='508972' date='Dec 20 2007, 08:25 PM
Isn't a what?
Man you are so obsessed with weight.
That's why it has a 507bhp V10 engine!!! Do you know how much an F16 weighs? Do you know how much a space shuttle weighs? They are SO DAMN SLOW aren't they. Oh no, hang on, no they aren't! How can that be! they are heavy! 
lol
Man you are so obsessed with weight.
That's why it has a 507bhp V10 engine!!! Do you know how much an F16 weighs? Do you know how much a space shuttle weighs? They are SO DAMN SLOW aren't they. Oh no, hang on, no they aren't! How can that be! they are heavy! lol
