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Old 07-06-2006, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by w8pmc' post='307474' date='Jul 6 2006, 07:04 AM
A straight line head to head would be fairly close, as it's known that the M5 stoxk 0-60 is closer to 4.5 in the real world, however i truly believe that the M5 would have the edge in real world day to day driving, rapid cross country & on the track as i feel the M5's chassis will still be more accomplished that the AMG, as will the suspension & brakes.

AMG's are renowned for straight line but one they deviate from that game, they get into an awful mess.

That said an article in this weeks AutoExpress made reference to a Brabus Monster (seriously that's what it's called) & it's a fully blown bi-turbo 63 with 715BHP & over 1000nm, capable of hitting 60 in 4 seconds dead & limited to 215MPH. Now that would be a proper monster.
I suspect you're absolutely right but from the reports and reviews I've read on the E63, AMG seems to have paid more attention to the steering and handling side of things this time around.
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Originally Posted by w8pmc' post='307474' date='Jul 6 2006, 02:04 PM
A straight line head to head would be fairly close, as it's known that the M5 stoxk 0-60 is closer to 4.5 in the real world, however i truly believe that the M5 would have the edge in real world day to day driving, rapid cross country & on the track as i feel the M5's chassis will still be more accomplished that the AMG, as will the suspension & brakes.

AMG's are renowned for straight line but one they deviate from that game, they get into an awful mess.

That said an article in this weeks AutoExpress made reference to a Brabus Monster (seriously that's what it's called) & it's a fully blown bi-turbo 63 with 715BHP & over 1000nm, capable of hitting 60 in 4 seconds dead & limited to 215MPH. Now that would be a proper monster.
brabus monster wasnt it the brabus rocket ?
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yep ... rocket

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/09/24/bra...-v12-s-biturbo/
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='307497' date='Jul 6 2006, 08:55 AM
I suspect you're absolutely right but from the reports and reviews I've read on the E63, AMG seems to have paid more attention to the steering and handling side of things this time around.
Handling yes, steering unfortunately still 'numb'. There's a good review (in this month's Fifth Gear I think). They like the E63 a lot, but in the end, prefer the M5 because of it's better connection to the road, and 5K lower price.
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With all this said you have to remember that the E63 is bi-Turbo'd and the M5 is still N/A with the amounts of power the M5 produces magine what it could do with a Super Charger or Turbo added..
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Originally Posted by Hamann5' post='307733' date='Jul 6 2006, 06:10 PM
With all this said you have to remember that the E63 is bi-Turbo'd and the M5 is still N/A with the amounts of power the M5 produces magine what it could do with a Super Charger or Turbo added..

Its not. they're N/A. now.

I posted the same thing in Znods thread before too... there seems to be A LOT of mis-understanding with Mercedes New AMG engine. Its not supercharged anymore... nor bi-turboed for the V12... X 65 AMGs...

Theres actually a few other articles that pop up if you search for "Natually Aspirated Mercedes AMG Engine"

http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/1088...nz-e63-amg.html

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/...06/pageNumber=1
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Originally Posted by WilliamsF1_M5' post='306871' date='Jul 4 2006, 03:03 PM
Anybody have any idea which is faster between a M5 and the new E63 AMG??
if i didnt remember wrong, a M5 even lose to a E55 Amg in one of the video
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Originally Posted by Kit523' post='307750' date='Jul 7 2006, 04:57 AM
if i didnt remember wrong, a M5 even lose to a E55 Amg in one of the video
From all that i read it's this way (AS A GENERAL ROULE) the E55 will jump ahead slightly till 100-140km/h after that it's bye bye E55. I read reviews that others killed the E55 at starts also so in most of the cases driver counts alot also.
Also from roll-ons the M5 is the clear winner.
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='307602' date='Jul 6 2006, 02:08 PM
Yep, good point it was Rocket, although it was very late & i was very tired when i read the article.
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automotor&sport:

M5 0-100 4.7s 0-200 14.5s

E63 0-100 4.9s 0-200 16.5s


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