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Old 02-10-2006 | 01:06 PM
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I agree. No courage in a bottle for me. But, still its all about stochiometric efficieny whether via forced induction or nitrous.
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='238065
Originally Posted by Centurion' post='237963' date='Feb 10 2006, 02:10 PM
No wheelspin at launch and it seem to bog down a little bit.
Holding the engine higher than 1,800RPM will almost certainly achieve a faster trap and quicker ET.

Damn the US launch control.
You can say that again.
WOW! Astonishing anyway.
Add a hamman upgrade to 600bhp and you'll get low 11s or high 10s.
and then bolt 2X6000bhp rocket engines running with solid fuel and heck you could seee low 6s
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Yeah and pigs fly.
I was talking about mods up to 20k. You were talking nonsense.
Do you think it's too much? Watch this: air filters, supersprint exhaust or hamman, hamman headers, ecu remap and 100shot of nos, and some radial drags. 20k or so and you can get not only a drager but alot more.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='238085' date='Feb 10 2006, 10:19 PM
Yeah and pigs fly.
I was talking about mods up to 20k. You were talking nonsense.
Do you think it's too much? Watch this: air filters, supersprint exhaust or hamman, hamman headers, ecu remap and 100shot of nos, and some radial drags. 20k or so and you can get not only a drager but alot more.
Yes and with all that crap the m5 will weigh about 2tonnes.. perfect for 1/4miles , right?

well what you say state above is about 12k, and most of it is pointelss anyway, if you want a dragster , then you should look into the m5's 1800kg+ kerb weight, that will do much more than pouring shots of NO2. with a possible saving of about 450kg if you chuch everything out and a lower center of gravity it will easily do 11s

also to eliminate rolling drag you could put 15` wheels and radials , that would cut at least 0.25seconds of your time.

and if pigs fly they can go and race with e39 m5s
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I took the video..... 20" wheels with SO3's..... he had drag radials on another set of rims but they didn't fit...


on the way home from the track, he pulled 200MPH!

http://media.putfile.com/200MPH-M5

now that's fast!
Old 02-10-2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FikseGTS' post='238212' date='Feb 11 2006, 03:56 AM
I took the video..... 20" wheels with SO3's..... he had drag radials on another set of rims but they didn't fit...


on the way home from the track, he pulled 200MPH!

http://media.putfile.com/200MPH-M5

now that's fast!

pretty impressive ill say ... notice he isnt using the most aggressive shift pattern... otherwise
it would have been even quicker... Fuel consumption at about 60l/100 id say
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='238110
Yeah and pigs fly.
I was talking about mods up to 20k. You were talking nonsense.
Do you think it's too much? Watch this: air filters, supersprint exhaust or hamman, hamman headers, ecu remap and 100shot of nos, and some radial drags. 20k or so and you can get not only a drager but alot more.
Yes and with all that crap the m5 will weigh about 2tonnes.. perfect for 1/4miles , right?

well what you say state above is about 12k, and most of it is pointelss anyway, if you want a dragster , then you should look into the m5's 1800kg+ kerb weight, that will do much more than pouring shots of NO2. with a possible saving of about 450kg if you chuch everything out and a lower center of gravity it will easily do 11s

also to eliminate rolling drag you could put 15` wheels and radials , that would cut at least 0.25seconds of your time.

and if pigs fly they can go and race with e39 m5s
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2 tones from what? Let me put it this way...headers (even lighter), air filter (yeah right), supersprint exhaust or whatever (lighter), ecu remap (ooooh that weighs alot), and last the nos package wich hardly puts any sensible weight keeping in mind that the other mods lightened the car. So theoreticly the car should stay in the same weight if not going lower.
+ u kinda miss th whole m5 point. I would want an m5 because it's a refined super saloon. How on earth are you going to remove 450 kilos from it? Except yous tart removing the usless parts (considering u want a dragster) but if u want or anybody wants a pure dragster the m5 is the wrong car to start with. I want an m5 to have it for everyday use but if i want to go dragging then i can switch to a pair of slicks and add the bottle of nitrous. I don't expect for oyu to understand. But this car can do both. For instance with the mods stated above, it can do some damage on the drag strip and then you can go back home or do smth else. You cannot remove 450 kilos, hell even 100 kilos without removing parts like back seats, door panels, speakers and so on... and that ruins the car. Anyway...having a shot on a e39 m5 is smth don't you think? I had mine and i knew i would loose. Just wana see how my car would stack against it. You can "race" an e39 m5 in any car what matter is you do it and how you do it. But i guess that's not smth for you to understand....so for you yes pigs kinda fly sometimes.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='238320' date='Feb 11 2006, 11:04 AM
2 tones from what? Let me put it this way...headers (even lighter), air filter (yeah right), supersprint exhaust or whatever (lighter), ecu remap (ooooh that weighs alot), and last the nos package wich hardly puts any sensible weight keeping in mind that the other mods lightened the car. So theoreticly the car should stay in the same weight if not going lower.
+ u kinda miss th whole m5 point. I would want an m5 because it's a refined super saloon. How on earth are you going to remove 450 kilos from it? Except yous tart removing the usless parts (considering u want a dragster) but if u want or anybody wants a pure dragster the m5 is the wrong car to start with. I want an m5 to have it for everyday use but if i want to go dragging then i can switch to a pair of slicks and add the bottle of nitrous. I don't expect for oyu to understand. But this car can do both. For instance with the mods stated above, it can do some damage on the drag strip and then you can go back home or do smth else. You cannot remove 450 kilos, hell even 100 kilos without removing parts like back seats, door panels, speakers and so on... and that ruins the car. Anyway...having a shot on a e39 m5 is smth don't you think? I had mine and i knew i would loose. Just wana see how my car would stack against it. You can "race" an e39 m5 in any car what matter is you do it and how you do it. But i guess that's not smth for you to understand....so for you yes pigs kinda fly sometimes.
also a fully specced m5 weighs about 1820kg (check website), add 80 kg for the driver, add ?66 kg for the fuel, add 6 litres for the cleaning fluid (its not included in the DIN weight), add 4X(25-18)kg for the new alloys (they are heavier than the m5 stock alloys), then add the No2 casing, another 30-35 kg then add the No2 and you get = 2034Kg... which accodring to my knowledge is more than 2 tonnes


sure the lighter headers ,air filter, supersprint exhaust and ecu remap will save you about 12kg.

I wonder do you ever calculate anything before posting?

well i was thinking of removing entire back seats, and right front seat, and changing the drivers seat for a plush Porsche GT3 style seat, i was thinking of chucking out the alloys for 15` jobbies, taking off everything from the boot including lining, taking off the door panels and also taking off the side metal casing and replacing it with a roll cage...

You cant say it has not been done Jay did it with his AA supercharged e46 M3 ...

Anyways my point is that if you want to do serious "damage" at the drag strip and go to 9s or 10s , then the m5 isnt the car for you, you should go with an STI / EVO 9. If you think that 11.8+s is respectable at the drag, than we obviously have very different opinions of what is respectable when it comes to the 1/4 mile
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='238449
2 tones from what? Let me put it this way...headers (even lighter), air filter (yeah right), supersprint exhaust or whatever (lighter), ecu remap (ooooh that weighs alot), and last the nos package wich hardly puts any sensible weight keeping in mind that the other mods lightened the car. So theoreticly the car should stay in the same weight if not going lower.
+ u kinda miss th whole m5 point. I would want an m5 because it's a refined super saloon. How on earth are you going to remove 450 kilos from it? Except yous tart removing the usless parts (considering u want a dragster) but if u want or anybody wants a pure dragster the m5 is the wrong car to start with. I want an m5 to have it for everyday use but if i want to go dragging then i can switch to a pair of slicks and add the bottle of nitrous. I don't expect for oyu to understand. But this car can do both. For instance with the mods stated above, it can do some damage on the drag strip and then you can go back home or do smth else. You cannot remove 450 kilos, hell even 100 kilos without removing parts like back seats, door panels, speakers and so on... and that ruins the car. Anyway...having a shot on a e39 m5 is smth don't you think? I had mine and i knew i would loose. Just wana see how my car would stack against it. You can "race" an e39 m5 in any car what matter is you do it and how you do it. But i guess that's not smth for you to understand....so for you yes pigs kinda fly sometimes.
also a fully specced m5 weighs about 1820kg (check website), add 80 kg for the driver, add ?66 kg for the fuel, add 6 litres for the cleaning fluid (its not included in the DIN weight), add 4X(25-18)kg for the new alloys (they are heavier than the m5 stock alloys), then add the No2 casing, another 30-35 kg then add the No2 and you get = 2034Kg... which accodring to my knowledge is more than 2 tonnes


sure the lighter headers ,air filter, supersprint exhaust and ecu remap will save you about 12kg.

I wonder do you ever calculate anything before posting?

well i was thinking of removing entire back seats, and right front seat, and changing the drivers seat for a plush Porsche GT3 style seat, i was thinking of chucking out the alloys for 15` jobbies, taking off everything from the boot including lining, taking off the door panels and also taking off the side metal casing and replacing it with a roll cage...

You cant say it has not been done Jay did it with his AA supercharged e46 M3 ...

Anyways my point is that if you want to do serious "damage" at the drag strip and go to 9s or 10s , then the m5 isnt the car for you, you should go with an STI / EVO 9. If you think that 11.8+s is respectable at the drag, than we obviously have very different opinions of what is respectable when it comes to the 1/4 mile
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I see what u say but i knew that the EU weight facts for all cars include: the weight of the car + an averrage driver of 75 kilos + 75% of a tank filled up. Don't remember correctly the last figure...it might be 80%. Anyway i am almost 100% pozitive since in the book of my passat i saw that.

And in that case i hardly see any huge gain in weight. 15 kilos for the rims let's say and let's say 50 for the nos. Not to mention you could go to SUPER light rims. Forged and 3 piece alloys that weigh even less than the m5 166 rims.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='238460' date='Feb 11 2006, 07:16 PM
I see what u say but i knew that the EU weight facts for all cars include: the weight of the car + an averrage driver of 75 kilos + 75% of a tank filled up. Don't remember correctly the last figure...it might be 80%. Anyway i am almost 100% pozitive since in the book of my passat i saw that.

And in that case i hardly see any huge gain in weight. 15 kilos for the rims let's say and let's say 50 for the nos. Not to mention you could go to SUPER light rims. Forged and 3 piece alloys that weigh even less than the m5 166 rims.
could be


AFAIK the DIN weight is just stock car.... EU weight is with driver plus fuel... DIN weight for the e60 m5 is 1915kg, according to the booklet im reading , correct me if im wrong
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Originally Posted by stream' post='237950
The car appears to have aftermarket wheels, but can't be sure. If so, additional traction may have been from drag radials or slicks. The burnout suggests slicks. Is it necessary to do a burnout on drag radials?
The car had "Nitrous, filters, AA chip, on 20" wheels"--see post:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67208
[/quote]I wonder how much was spent doing the aftermaket items, ignoring the wheels. Not too much I suspect. So, it doesn't take many $ to put the M5 into the thick of things (see list below--sorted on 1/4 mile time).

Note that I understand that the other cars could be modded too. But, I am just interested in seeing how far the M5 might "move up" because of mods of the type used on the modded car discussed on this thread.

Ferrari Enzo MT 10/04.................................3.40...11.00... 133.90
Ferrari Enzo RT 7/03...................................3.30...11.10. ..133.00
Porsche 911 Carerra GT MT 10/04...............3.60...11.10...133.40
Ferrari Enzo CD 7/03...................................3.30...11.20. ..136.00
Porsche 911 Carerra GT CD 6/04.................3.50...11.20...132.00
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 MT 11/05...........3.50...11.50...127.10
Mercedes SLR5 McLaren RT 7/05..................3.50...11.50...126.10
BMW M5--Modded...........................................1 1.581...126.35
Ford GT CD 1/04..........................................3.30.. .11.60
Ford GT MT 6/05..........................................3.60.. .11.60...126.20
McLaren F1 RT 12/97.....................................3.40...11.6 0...125.00
Mercedes SLR5 McLaren MT 1/05.................3.60...11.60...127.20
Mercedes SLR5 McLaren CD 1/05................3.60...11.60...125.00
Ferrari F430 RT 1/05....................................3.50...11.70 ...120.10
Ferrari F430 CD 1/05...................................3.50...11.70. ..123.00
Ferrari F430 RT 12/05..................................3.50...11.70.. .120.10
Ferrari F430 F1 MT 6/05...............................3.70...11.70...12 2.80
Ford GT RT 12/05........................................3.60...1 1.70...125.80
Lamborghini Murcielago MT 6/03...................3.50...11.70...122.60
Dodge Viper SRT-10 MT 1/04.......................3.90...11.77...123.63
Ford GT MT 1/04.........................................3.60... 11.78...124.31
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 CD 12/05...........3.40...11.80...125.00
Dodge Viper SRT-10 MT 6/03.......................3.90...11.80...123.60
Mercedes SL600 CD 3/04...........................3.60...11.90...120.00
Mercedes SL65 AMG CD 1/05......................3.80...11.90...123.00
Lamborghini Murcielago RT 5/02..................3.60...12.00...121.00
Mercedes SL65 AMG RT 1/05.......................4.00...12.00...122.80
Dodge Viper SRT-10 RT 3/05.......................4.00...12.10...119.00
Dodge Viper SRT-10 CD 12/05....................3.80...12.10...120.00
Porsche 911 GT3 MT 4/04...........................3.90...12.10...116.00
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 RT 12/05...........3.90...12.20...120.70
Dodge Viper SRT-10 MT 11/05.....................4.20...12.20...118.00
Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet CD 9/04..........3.80...12.20...116.00
Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe RT 12/05...........4.20...12.30...118.30
Ferrari 430 Spider RT 9/05..........................4.00...12.30...116.90
Ferrari 575M Maranello MT 6/03...................4.20...12.30...118.60
Ferrari F430 Spider RT 9/05.........................4.00...12.30...116.90
Lamborghini Gallardo RT 3/04......................4.00...12.30...117.40
Lamborghini Gallardo RT 3/04......................4.00...12.30...117.40
Porsche 911 Carerra S Coupe RT 3/05..........3.90...12.30...114.80
Porsche 911 GT3 CD 1/04............................4.00...12.30...114.0 0
Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 CD 12/01............4.00...12.40...116.00
Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 MT 6/04..............4.20...12.40...117.00
Ferrari Challenge Stradale CD 1/04...............4.00...12.40...115.00
Lamborghini Gallardo CD 2/04......................4.10...12.40...118.00
Mercedes E55 AMG RT 6/03..........................4.20...12.40...116.40
Porsche 911 GT3 RT 3/05.............................4.20...12.40...113. 80
Porsche 911 Turbo (415 HP) RT 3/05.............4.00...12.40...115.60
Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 MT 11/02............4.29...12.44...116.54
Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 MT 2/02..............4.07...12.48...114.90
BMW M5 CD 1/06......................................4.20...12. 50...118.00
BMW M5 MT 3/06.......................................4.50...12 .90...114.90


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