No doubt it's the ferrari that wins on a track. BMW is yet to come with a car, it's supercar to compete with ferrari. But for the extra cash i don't think it's worth the extra go. Again people tend to forget that we are comparing here a big and heavy 4 door M5 with a lightweight 2 door coupe designed to eat the tracks, and not for shopping or long trips or 5 people in it.
M5 is indeed an industrial car but if it would have cost like the ferrari (almost twice as much) then for sure the M5 would have been less industrial.
And please F430 is not so less industrial, the only thing that separates the sales is the pure price of the car wich not everyone can afford. The Enzo is much more exclusive...and the new FXX now that's the exclusive of exclusive.
You know...in a way i'm sick of the term hand mande....because you don't know what's really hand made those days. AMG engines are supposed to also be hand-made and i doubt that. What is hand made at a F430? What is more hand made in it than in the m5?
Also would you say the same about an enzo? As just a faster f430? Cuz that's pretty much what you are saying about m5 also (in different price ranges of course).

 

A friend had the 360 Modena, payed, in 1999, 125k euros .
One year ago the dealer gives him 103k euros when he takes the F430 .


The worth of M5 E39, now, after 5 years ?
ROTFL, nothing ..


Thus, to which "extra cash" are you relating ?

F430 isn't handmade ?
Engine is handmade, leather is cutted and sewed by women and not robot ...

 

Extra cash for the M5. Like i said the F430 doesn't worth an M5 and an M3....cuz that's pretty close the price range.

I wanted to know what is handmade in the F430?
Engine? Reallly? Elabortate please...cuz amg also says they have handmade built engines.
Ok...lether...anything more?

 

I'm tired to speak with a person who doesn't want to understand ... F430 is a unique car, not a 545i with 2 more cilinders that anybody can order and drive : now if you order an M5 in 80 days it will arrive while if you order an F430 you wait 2 years .

If you pass with M5 people say "Strange that 5 series ... The bumber is particular .." . If you pass with the 430 people become crazy and all note you (I speak for direct experience) .

And sensations and fun at the wheel ...

 

Ok ok...you go your way i'll go mine...

 

you my friend are so correct it is a sensational supercar, not simply a pumped up saloon....hence it costs 3Xm5

and having been in one... (look for one of my old threads...) , i can really say that most people would not understand how special it is

 

Just get both like me and you'll have the best of both worlds!

 

But don't forget to say thet your way is the WRONG way .

 

3Xm5 ? Where ?
Here M5 costs 100k euros and F430 160k .

 

here the m5 is 96k, and the ferrari is around 198k.... so twice the difference i suppose