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Originally Posted by Iceman' post='331620' date='Sep 6 2006, 11:09 PM
No, you don't get the point. 
I wouldn't let my kid drive in a car with much HP unless I know he has done enough Km's and drove long enough to have the experience he needs to drive a more powered car.
If he then street races I know he has the experience to know when to stop, how far to push the car to it's limits and not losing control.
I am talking about DRIVING EXPERIENCE. Because if you have enough of driving experience you can see danger earlier, and you know the limits better than when you are 18 and just have gotten your driving license. When you are so unexperienced you don't see what an experienced driver is seeing. You don't react like an experienced driver.
And if he takes his 50 HP Opel Corsa to a street race, well, then so be it. I can't stop it, but if I find out about he will never ever be allowed to get into my car. And before letting him drive around in any car with more than 150 HP I'd let him do a driver training...
I wouldn't let my kid drive in a car with much HP unless I know he has done enough Km's and drove long enough to have the experience he needs to drive a more powered car.
If he then street races I know he has the experience to know when to stop, how far to push the car to it's limits and not losing control.
I am talking about DRIVING EXPERIENCE. Because if you have enough of driving experience you can see danger earlier, and you know the limits better than when you are 18 and just have gotten your driving license. When you are so unexperienced you don't see what an experienced driver is seeing. You don't react like an experienced driver.
And if he takes his 50 HP Opel Corsa to a street race, well, then so be it. I can't stop it, but if I find out about he will never ever be allowed to get into my car. And before letting him drive around in any car with more than 150 HP I'd let him do a driver training...
09-08-2006, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='331027' date='Sep 5 2006, 10:47 PM
That's why i hate stereotypes 
Age has nothing to do with how well can you drive an M6 or even an F1 car. Rober Kubica is 21 and new test driver for bmw f1 is sebastian vettel wich is 19. All that matters is how mental are you. No one denys that the youth tend to be more lunatic but i've seen absolute lunatic folks over 30 yrs old at the wheel.
22 yrs old doesn't necesarely mean too much power to handle. In fact if the driver is ponderated and experienced this age 20-30 yrs old is the climax for the relefexes and driving characteristics...but what do i know? I'm 22 also.
Age has nothing to do with how well can you drive an M6 or even an F1 car. Rober Kubica is 21 and new test driver for bmw f1 is sebastian vettel wich is 19. All that matters is how mental are you. No one denys that the youth tend to be more lunatic but i've seen absolute lunatic folks over 30 yrs old at the wheel.
22 yrs old doesn't necesarely mean too much power to handle. In fact if the driver is ponderated and experienced this age 20-30 yrs old is the climax for the relefexes and driving characteristics...but what do i know? I'm 22 also.
My Freind PETER is 19 with almost 6 years experience Accident free record with 525iASE and me 23 with the 10 years accident free record with the 525iaSE (earlier with SUPRA once and CELICA once) Depends on the experience, and i agree on this with many fellow members,
hhahahahaa
09-08-2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam Q.' post='332304' date='Sep 8 2006, 05:17 PM
hahahah,
My Freind PETER is 19 with almost 6 years experience Accident free record with 525iASE and me 23 with the 10 years accident free record with the 525iaSE (earlier with SUPRA once and CELICA once) Depends on the experience, and i agree on this with many fellow members,
hhahahahaa
My Freind PETER is 19 with almost 6 years experience Accident free record with 525iASE and me 23 with the 10 years accident free record with the 525iaSE (earlier with SUPRA once and CELICA once) Depends on the experience, and i agree on this with many fellow members,
hhahahahaa You get your diriving licence at 13 there?
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='332335' date='Sep 8 2006, 05:43 PM
You get your diriving licence at 13 there?
09-08-2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' post='332406' date='Sep 8 2006, 09:54 PM
I started driving when I was 12. Not on public roads though.
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14 yrs driving, and no accidents. But some damn a** can always rear end me when I am standing still at the red light 
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='332486' date='Sep 9 2006, 12:05 AM
14 yrs driving, and no accidents. But some damn a** can always rear end me when I am standing still at the red light
can reverse your car into a concrete block...
09-13-2006, 01:31 AM
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� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
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� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by Iceman' post='332489' date='Sep 9 2006, 12:10 AM
Or somebody can reverse your car into a concrete block...
can reverse your car into a concrete block... ), Thx Ice BTW "look who is talkin' here "
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='329854' date='Sep 2 2006, 03:29 AM
he has enough money to buy roughly another 2800 M6s, his father is the richest person in bulgaria
insurance is paying for a new one
insurance is paying for a new one