Do you think the new M5 is the fastest Big Saloon?
#1
Senior Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 523iA, 2006, Silver Grey, Black Leatherette Interior, Fine-Wood Trim Poplar Grain Brown High-Gloss, 6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Steptronic, Automatic Air Conditioning with Extended Content, Interior and Exterior Mirrors with Automatic Anti-Dazzle Function (Incl. Folding Function for Exterior Mirror), Electric Front Seats with Memory for Driver, Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control, Adjustable Steering Column, BMW Radio with 8 Speakers and CD Drive, Park Distance Control, Universal Bluetooth Cell Phone, Electric Rear Sunblind
I just read an article in Evo magazine. In my opinion, Evo is the most technically oriented magazine around the globe. Their staff rate cars according to their handling, "fun to drive" aspect, and track times.
Evo did a road test in their last issue that includes the Alpina B5, Cadillac CTS-V, and the Maserati Quattroporte.
The surprise was the Maserati Quattroporte achieved a better track time by around 1.6 seconds at the Bedford Autodrome than the new M5 . The Alpina B5 was only 0.15 seconds behind the M5!
The question now is: How did Maserati manage to design a car that is faster on a track than the M5 while being larger, heavier, and having surprisingly much less horsepower? Please take a look at the stats below.
Maserati Quattroporte to BMW M5
Power= 394 bhp to 507 bhp
Power/ton= 207 bhp/ton to 277 bhp/ton
Length= 5052 mm to 4855 mm
Width= 1895 mm to 1846 mm
Height= 1438 mm to 1469 mm
Wheelbase= 3064 mm to 2888 mm
Front track= 1582 mm to 1580 mm
Rear track= 1595 mm to 1566 mm
Weight= 1920 Kg to 1830 kg
The numbers show for themselves. The Maser (69K GBP) is longer, wider, heavier with less power and it manages to get a better track time than the M5 (62K GBP).
I am very dissapointed that BMW has spent a fortune on electronics and forgot about handling and car dynamics. The M5 doesn't seem to handle well. It could not match the better handling of the Maserati. What a shame .
Just to be fair I would like to mention that the Maserati Quattroporte got a better track time than the new Porsche Carrera (997), Porsche Boxster S, Mitsubishi Evolution, Mercedes SL55 AMG, SL600, SLK55 AMG, and Lotus Elise 111R!
A sample of Evo track times at Bedford Autodrome:
Caterham 1:19.62
Porsche GT3 RS 1:23.85
Lamborghini Gallardo 1:23.9
Ferrari F430 1:24.2
Aston Martin Vanquish S 1:27.4
Aston Martin DB9 1:28.2
Maserati Quattroporte 1:28:35
Porsche Carrera (997) 1:28.55
Porsche Boxster S 1:28.85
Lotus Elise 111R 1:29.20
Mercedes SLK55 AMG 1:29.30
Mercedes SL600 1:29.95
BMW M5 1:29.95
Mercedes SL55 AMG 1:30.05
Alpina B5 1:30.1
Ford Mustang GT 1:30.55
Cadillac CTS-V 1:31.05
My dream supersaloon has switched now from the M5 to the Quattroporte. Thanks Maserati . BMW: shame on you :thumbsdown:.
Evo did a road test in their last issue that includes the Alpina B5, Cadillac CTS-V, and the Maserati Quattroporte.
The surprise was the Maserati Quattroporte achieved a better track time by around 1.6 seconds at the Bedford Autodrome than the new M5 . The Alpina B5 was only 0.15 seconds behind the M5!
The question now is: How did Maserati manage to design a car that is faster on a track than the M5 while being larger, heavier, and having surprisingly much less horsepower? Please take a look at the stats below.
Maserati Quattroporte to BMW M5
Power= 394 bhp to 507 bhp
Power/ton= 207 bhp/ton to 277 bhp/ton
Length= 5052 mm to 4855 mm
Width= 1895 mm to 1846 mm
Height= 1438 mm to 1469 mm
Wheelbase= 3064 mm to 2888 mm
Front track= 1582 mm to 1580 mm
Rear track= 1595 mm to 1566 mm
Weight= 1920 Kg to 1830 kg
The numbers show for themselves. The Maser (69K GBP) is longer, wider, heavier with less power and it manages to get a better track time than the M5 (62K GBP).
I am very dissapointed that BMW has spent a fortune on electronics and forgot about handling and car dynamics. The M5 doesn't seem to handle well. It could not match the better handling of the Maserati. What a shame .
Just to be fair I would like to mention that the Maserati Quattroporte got a better track time than the new Porsche Carrera (997), Porsche Boxster S, Mitsubishi Evolution, Mercedes SL55 AMG, SL600, SLK55 AMG, and Lotus Elise 111R!
A sample of Evo track times at Bedford Autodrome:
Caterham 1:19.62
Porsche GT3 RS 1:23.85
Lamborghini Gallardo 1:23.9
Ferrari F430 1:24.2
Aston Martin Vanquish S 1:27.4
Aston Martin DB9 1:28.2
Maserati Quattroporte 1:28:35
Porsche Carrera (997) 1:28.55
Porsche Boxster S 1:28.85
Lotus Elise 111R 1:29.20
Mercedes SLK55 AMG 1:29.30
Mercedes SL600 1:29.95
BMW M5 1:29.95
Mercedes SL55 AMG 1:30.05
Alpina B5 1:30.1
Ford Mustang GT 1:30.55
Cadillac CTS-V 1:31.05
My dream supersaloon has switched now from the M5 to the Quattroporte. Thanks Maserati . BMW: shame on you :thumbsdown:.
#3
Contributors
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Providence, Rhode Island
Posts: 543
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 2005 545i Titanium Silver/Black/Poplar: Steptronic, Sport, Cold Weather, Premium Sound, Comfort Seats, Sat Radio, NAV & Shades
I know a guy with a Quattroporte. It is one amazing car. Persoanlly I would buy one over an M5. He did have some problems with it when he first got it. Some trouble with the paddle shifts bu toverall he seems to have had good luck with it.
#4
Senior Members
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 6,458
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Shebs' date='Oct 18 2005, 07:24 AM
I just read an article in Evo magazine. In my opinion, Evo is the most technically oriented magazine around the globe. Their staff rate cars according to their handling, "fun to drive" aspect, and track times.
Evo did a road test in their last issue that includes the Alpina B5, Cadillac CTS-V, and the Maserati Quattroporte.
The surprise was the Maserati Quattroporte achieved a better track time by around 1.6 seconds at the Bedford Autodrome than the new M5 . The Alpina B5 was only 0.15 seconds behind the M5!
The question now is: How did Maserati manage to design a car that is faster on a track than the M5 while being larger, heavier, and having surprisingly much less horsepower? Please take a look at the stats below.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Maserati Quattroporte? to BMW M5
Power=? ? ? ? ? 394 bhp? to? ? 507 bhp
Power/ton=? ? 207 bhp/ton to 277 bhp/ton
Length=? ? ? ? 5052 mm? to? 4855 mm
Width=? ? ? ? ? 1895 mm? to? 1846 mm
Height=? ? ? ? 1438 mm? to? 1469 mm
Wheelbase=? 3064 mm? to? 2888 mm
Front track=? 1582 mm? to? 1580 mm
Rear track=? 1595 mm? to? ? 1566 mm
Weight=? ? ? 1920 Kg? ? to? 1830 kg
The numbers show for themselves. The Maser (69K GBP) is longer, wider, heavier with less power and it manages to get a better track time than the M5 (62K GBP).
I am very dissapointed that BMW has spent a fortune on electronics and forgot about handling and car dynamics. The M5 doesn't seem to handle well. It could not match the better handling of the Maserati. What a shame .
Just to be fair I would like to mention that the Maserati Quattroporte got a better track time than the new Porsche Carrera (997), Porsche Boxster S, Mitsubishi Evolution, Mercedes SL55 AMG, SL600, SLK55 AMG, and Lotus Elise 111R!
A sample of Evo track times at Bedford Autodrome:
Caterham? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:19.62
Porsche GT3 RS? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:23.85
Lamborghini Gallardo? ? ? 1:23.9
Ferrari F430? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:24.2
Aston Martin Vanquish S? 1:27.4
Aston Martin DB9? ? ? ? ? ? 1:28.2
Maserati Quattroporte? ? ? 1:28:35
Porsche Carrera (997)? ? 1:28.55
Porsche Boxster S? ? ? ? ? 1:28.85
Lotus Elise 111R? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.20
Mercedes SLK55 AMG? ? ? 1:29.30
Mercedes SL600? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
BMW M5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
Mercedes SL55 AMG? ? ? ? 1:30.05
Alpina B5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.1
Ford Mustang GT? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.55
Cadillac CTS-V? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:31.05
My dream supersaloon has switched now from the M5 to the Quattroporte. Thanks Maserati . BMW: shame on you :thumbsdown:.
Evo did a road test in their last issue that includes the Alpina B5, Cadillac CTS-V, and the Maserati Quattroporte.
The surprise was the Maserati Quattroporte achieved a better track time by around 1.6 seconds at the Bedford Autodrome than the new M5 . The Alpina B5 was only 0.15 seconds behind the M5!
The question now is: How did Maserati manage to design a car that is faster on a track than the M5 while being larger, heavier, and having surprisingly much less horsepower? Please take a look at the stats below.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Maserati Quattroporte? to BMW M5
Power=? ? ? ? ? 394 bhp? to? ? 507 bhp
Power/ton=? ? 207 bhp/ton to 277 bhp/ton
Length=? ? ? ? 5052 mm? to? 4855 mm
Width=? ? ? ? ? 1895 mm? to? 1846 mm
Height=? ? ? ? 1438 mm? to? 1469 mm
Wheelbase=? 3064 mm? to? 2888 mm
Front track=? 1582 mm? to? 1580 mm
Rear track=? 1595 mm? to? ? 1566 mm
Weight=? ? ? 1920 Kg? ? to? 1830 kg
The numbers show for themselves. The Maser (69K GBP) is longer, wider, heavier with less power and it manages to get a better track time than the M5 (62K GBP).
I am very dissapointed that BMW has spent a fortune on electronics and forgot about handling and car dynamics. The M5 doesn't seem to handle well. It could not match the better handling of the Maserati. What a shame .
Just to be fair I would like to mention that the Maserati Quattroporte got a better track time than the new Porsche Carrera (997), Porsche Boxster S, Mitsubishi Evolution, Mercedes SL55 AMG, SL600, SLK55 AMG, and Lotus Elise 111R!
A sample of Evo track times at Bedford Autodrome:
Caterham? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:19.62
Porsche GT3 RS? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:23.85
Lamborghini Gallardo? ? ? 1:23.9
Ferrari F430? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:24.2
Aston Martin Vanquish S? 1:27.4
Aston Martin DB9? ? ? ? ? ? 1:28.2
Maserati Quattroporte? ? ? 1:28:35
Porsche Carrera (997)? ? 1:28.55
Porsche Boxster S? ? ? ? ? 1:28.85
Lotus Elise 111R? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.20
Mercedes SLK55 AMG? ? ? 1:29.30
Mercedes SL600? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
BMW M5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
Mercedes SL55 AMG? ? ? ? 1:30.05
Alpina B5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.1
Ford Mustang GT? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.55
Cadillac CTS-V? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:31.05
My dream supersaloon has switched now from the M5 to the Quattroporte. Thanks Maserati . BMW: shame on you :thumbsdown:.
[snapback]185646[/snapback]
Really now...i can't belive this...maybe they did the test in CITIY MODE!
It's impossible that a quattroporte is better than the m5. Simply illogical and wierd. Maybe the masserati coupe gt wich uses the same engine far as i know, can smoke a gt3 on a lap. ))) Ok not let's be serious....
Don't trust any magazine or any so called super accurate top magazine...if u just take a look at some magazines only at the perofrmance figures u can see alot of difference...sometimes even ridiculous difference. (yeah i know different type of drivers, different conditions but it's not like some did the test in the alps on snow with a idiot jurnalist and some on the racetrack with a proffesional driver).
I for one won't belive that fact untill i get many other results.
Did anyone know how much did the maserati coupe or quattroporte at top gear?
#5
Contributors
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 3,585
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: In a place where the Mercedes density is the highest in the world (no. of MB per square kilometer) I choose a Bimmer, why? because of one thing "The Ultimate Driving Experience"
My Ride:
523i Steptronic, Silver Grey Exterior, Black Interior with Black Dakota Leather and Maple Wood Trim. Chrome Grill, Style 123 rim, Airbags everywhere, PDC, Rain sensor, Auto lights, Moveable front armrest, Advance Climate Control, Glass Sunroof, Auto dimming interior and exterior mirror with foldable functions, Extended Lights package, 6 CD changer in glove box, Power seats with memory, Power adjustable steering wheel, Power rear sunblinds.
Add ons: 123 wheels, chrome grill, K&N Hi flow filter, Eibach Pro Kit, e60.net decal and 24,000km
Past rides:
2001 Nissan Xterra SE
1999 E39 523i
1999 E46 323i
1996 Acura Integra LS
Originally Posted by Shebs' date='Oct 18 2005, 08:24 PM
I just read an article in Evo magazine. In my opinion, Evo is the most technically oriented magazine around the globe. Their staff rate cars according to their handling, "fun to drive" aspect, and track times.
Evo did a road test in their last issue that includes the Alpina B5, Cadillac CTS-V, and the Maserati Quattroporte.
The surprise was the Maserati Quattroporte achieved a better track time by around 1.6 seconds at the Bedford Autodrome than the new M5 . The Alpina B5 was only 0.15 seconds behind the M5!
The question now is: How did Maserati manage to design a car that is faster on a track than the M5 while being larger, heavier, and having surprisingly much less horsepower? Please take a look at the stats below.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Maserati Quattroporte? to BMW M5
Power=? ? ? ? ? 394 bhp? to? ? 507 bhp
Power/ton=? ? 207 bhp/ton to 277 bhp/ton
Length=? ? ? ? 5052 mm? to? 4855 mm
Width=? ? ? ? ? 1895 mm? to? 1846 mm
Height=? ? ? ? 1438 mm? to? 1469 mm
Wheelbase=? 3064 mm? to? 2888 mm
Front track=? 1582 mm? to? 1580 mm
Rear track=? 1595 mm? to? ? 1566 mm
Weight=? ? ? 1920 Kg? ? to? 1830 kg
The numbers show for themselves. The Maser (69K GBP) is longer, wider, heavier with less power and it manages to get a better track time than the M5 (62K GBP).
I am very dissapointed that BMW has spent a fortune on electronics and forgot about handling and car dynamics. The M5 doesn't seem to handle well. It could not match the better handling of the Maserati. What a shame .
Just to be fair I would like to mention that the Maserati Quattroporte got a better track time than the new Porsche Carrera (997), Porsche Boxster S, Mitsubishi Evolution, Mercedes SL55 AMG, SL600, SLK55 AMG, and Lotus Elise 111R!
A sample of Evo track times at Bedford Autodrome:
Caterham? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:19.62
Porsche GT3 RS? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:23.85
Lamborghini Gallardo? ? ? 1:23.9
Ferrari F430? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:24.2
Aston Martin Vanquish S? 1:27.4
Aston Martin DB9? ? ? ? ? ? 1:28.2
Maserati Quattroporte? ? ? 1:28:35
Porsche Carrera (997)? ? 1:28.55
Porsche Boxster S? ? ? ? ? 1:28.85
Lotus Elise 111R? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.20
Mercedes SLK55 AMG? ? ? 1:29.30
Mercedes SL600? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
BMW M5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
Mercedes SL55 AMG? ? ? ? 1:30.05
Alpina B5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.1
Ford Mustang GT? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.55
Cadillac CTS-V? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:31.05
My dream supersaloon has switched now from the M5 to the Quattroporte. Thanks Maserati . BMW: shame on you :thumbsdown:.
Evo did a road test in their last issue that includes the Alpina B5, Cadillac CTS-V, and the Maserati Quattroporte.
The surprise was the Maserati Quattroporte achieved a better track time by around 1.6 seconds at the Bedford Autodrome than the new M5 . The Alpina B5 was only 0.15 seconds behind the M5!
The question now is: How did Maserati manage to design a car that is faster on a track than the M5 while being larger, heavier, and having surprisingly much less horsepower? Please take a look at the stats below.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Maserati Quattroporte? to BMW M5
Power=? ? ? ? ? 394 bhp? to? ? 507 bhp
Power/ton=? ? 207 bhp/ton to 277 bhp/ton
Length=? ? ? ? 5052 mm? to? 4855 mm
Width=? ? ? ? ? 1895 mm? to? 1846 mm
Height=? ? ? ? 1438 mm? to? 1469 mm
Wheelbase=? 3064 mm? to? 2888 mm
Front track=? 1582 mm? to? 1580 mm
Rear track=? 1595 mm? to? ? 1566 mm
Weight=? ? ? 1920 Kg? ? to? 1830 kg
The numbers show for themselves. The Maser (69K GBP) is longer, wider, heavier with less power and it manages to get a better track time than the M5 (62K GBP).
I am very dissapointed that BMW has spent a fortune on electronics and forgot about handling and car dynamics. The M5 doesn't seem to handle well. It could not match the better handling of the Maserati. What a shame .
Just to be fair I would like to mention that the Maserati Quattroporte got a better track time than the new Porsche Carrera (997), Porsche Boxster S, Mitsubishi Evolution, Mercedes SL55 AMG, SL600, SLK55 AMG, and Lotus Elise 111R!
A sample of Evo track times at Bedford Autodrome:
Caterham? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:19.62
Porsche GT3 RS? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:23.85
Lamborghini Gallardo? ? ? 1:23.9
Ferrari F430? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:24.2
Aston Martin Vanquish S? 1:27.4
Aston Martin DB9? ? ? ? ? ? 1:28.2
Maserati Quattroporte? ? ? 1:28:35
Porsche Carrera (997)? ? 1:28.55
Porsche Boxster S? ? ? ? ? 1:28.85
Lotus Elise 111R? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.20
Mercedes SLK55 AMG? ? ? 1:29.30
Mercedes SL600? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
BMW M5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:29.95
Mercedes SL55 AMG? ? ? ? 1:30.05
Alpina B5? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.1
Ford Mustang GT? ? ? ? ? ? 1:30.55
Cadillac CTS-V? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1:31.05
My dream supersaloon has switched now from the M5 to the Quattroporte. Thanks Maserati . BMW: shame on you :thumbsdown:.
[snapback]185646[/snapback]
#7
Senior Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 523iA, 2006, Silver Grey, Black Leatherette Interior, Fine-Wood Trim Poplar Grain Brown High-Gloss, 6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Steptronic, Automatic Air Conditioning with Extended Content, Interior and Exterior Mirrors with Automatic Anti-Dazzle Function (Incl. Folding Function for Exterior Mirror), Electric Front Seats with Memory for Driver, Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control, Adjustable Steering Column, BMW Radio with 8 Speakers and CD Drive, Park Distance Control, Universal Bluetooth Cell Phone, Electric Rear Sunblind
Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 18 2005, 03:56 PM
Can't belive this!!! Well i don't trust many car mags...but give me an m5 for 3-4 days to get used to it and than move the trident ou of my way.
Really now...i can't belive this...maybe they did the test in CITIY MODE! ?
It's impossible that a quattroporte is better than the m5. Simply illogical and wierd. Maybe the masserati coupe gt wich uses the same engine far as i know, can smoke a gt3 on a lap. ))) Ok not let's be serious....
Don't trust any magazine or any? so called super accurate top magazine...if u just take a look at some magazines only at the perofrmance figures u can see alot of difference...sometimes even ridiculous difference. (yeah i know different type of drivers, different conditions but it's not like some did the test in the alps on snow with a idiot jurnalist and some on the racetrack with a proffesional driver).
I for one won't belive that fact untill i get many other results.
Did anyone know how much did the maserati coupe or quattroporte at top gear?
Really now...i can't belive this...maybe they did the test in CITIY MODE! ?
It's impossible that a quattroporte is better than the m5. Simply illogical and wierd. Maybe the masserati coupe gt wich uses the same engine far as i know, can smoke a gt3 on a lap. ))) Ok not let's be serious....
Don't trust any magazine or any? so called super accurate top magazine...if u just take a look at some magazines only at the perofrmance figures u can see alot of difference...sometimes even ridiculous difference. (yeah i know different type of drivers, different conditions but it's not like some did the test in the alps on snow with a idiot jurnalist and some on the racetrack with a proffesional driver).
I for one won't belive that fact untill i get many other results.
Did anyone know how much did the maserati coupe or quattroporte at top gear?
[snapback]185656[/snapback]
#8
Senior Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 523iA, 2006, Silver Grey, Black Leatherette Interior, Fine-Wood Trim Poplar Grain Brown High-Gloss, 6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Steptronic, Automatic Air Conditioning with Extended Content, Interior and Exterior Mirrors with Automatic Anti-Dazzle Function (Incl. Folding Function for Exterior Mirror), Electric Front Seats with Memory for Driver, Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control, Adjustable Steering Column, BMW Radio with 8 Speakers and CD Drive, Park Distance Control, Universal Bluetooth Cell Phone, Electric Rear Sunblind
Originally Posted by AC_S5' date='Oct 18 2005, 04:12 PM
Come on is only one test in one magazine, a lap time depends on alot of other factor, even though the Maserati is faster than the M5 by like 1 sec I wouldn't want a Maserati in my Garage.? Only 1 sec slower and you turn away from the M5 to the Maserati, shame on you :thumbsdown:
[snapback]185661[/snapback]
And it is not 1 sec, it is 1.6 sec. Considering average speed of 120 km/h, which is 33.3 m/s, the Maserati is ahead of the M5 by 53.3 m.
I don't know about you, but for me that is a distance. Actually, it is a huge distance.
So shame on BMW :thumbsdown:. Again :thumbsdown:.
#9
Senior Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 523iA, 2006, Silver Grey, Black Leatherette Interior, Fine-Wood Trim Poplar Grain Brown High-Gloss, 6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Steptronic, Automatic Air Conditioning with Extended Content, Interior and Exterior Mirrors with Automatic Anti-Dazzle Function (Incl. Folding Function for Exterior Mirror), Electric Front Seats with Memory for Driver, Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control, Adjustable Steering Column, BMW Radio with 8 Speakers and CD Drive, Park Distance Control, Universal Bluetooth Cell Phone, Electric Rear Sunblind
Originally Posted by tomwid' date='Oct 18 2005, 04:42 PM
I know why the M5 got slower track times... the driver sucks.
[snapback]185672[/snapback]
#10
Senior Members
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NYC
Posts: 702
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 335i Sedan