please do no start this again

ICEMAN is RIGHT everything can be seen by B(mw) IG BROTHER!
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You can fool almost any other computer, why not the E60?

 

That's DEFINATELY NOT TRUE!
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iceman, thats what is says in the bloody magazine ... i didnt pull it out of my @ss you know

just what was in the mag... no dyno scans

www.dmsautomotive.com but they never put anything up !


all i found "The BMW M5 our ECU Re-map gives increased power and smoother up shifts by mapping a softer cut in the rev limiter. Also mid range response is improved in both standard and sport modes. "

i suppose your best bet is to get someone to scan (i dont have a scanner)
the 3 page article from BMW CAR (UK) magazine...

 

iceman, thats what is says in the bloody magazine ... i didnt pull it out of my @ss you know

just what was in the mag... no dyno scans

www.dmsautomotive.com but they never put anything up !


all i found "The BMW M5 our ECU Re-map gives increased power and smoother up shifts by mapping a softer cut in the rev limiter. Also mid range response is improved in both standard and sport modes. "

i suppose your best bet is to get someone to scan (i dont have a scanner)
the 3 page article from BMW CAR (UK) magazine...
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I've been out in that very car, as DMS replaced their E60 535D M-Sport with the M5 & Rob (owner) has tweaked it & also altered the rev limits in the individual gears.

The car is awesome & having raced it a couple of times against my modified RS6, their was nothing to seperate both cars in acceleration & top speed with us matching like for like. My RS6 only has an extra 10BHP over the DMS modified M5, however with only 5 gears & the pair of turbos, they were matched perfectly. The M5 pulled a very slight lead up to 40MPH as 2 big turbos take a moment to spool up & the M5 has it's power available lower down the rev range, however this balance was addressed right up to our timing beamed 181MPH.

 

please do no start this again

ICEMAN is RIGHT everything can be seen by B(mw) IG BROTHER!
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didn't find mine!!!!!

 

told you

 

if my memory serves me right , torque determines acceleration and the RS6 has it in abundance and lower down the rev range than the m5

told you
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Not strictly true, as the RS6 having 2 big turbos, takes longer to hit peak torque as both turbos need to be spooling fully to get the big whack. I don't know the curve on an M5 (standard or tuned) but mine at peak was 562.3lbsft, but as said it kicks in later up the rev range. All normally aspirated cars have their peak torque lower down the rev range, as they are not waiting for turbo's to spool.

That said, diesel turbos are designed to kick in much earlier than petrol turbos, as they don't have the same overall rev-range. Diesels having a rev limit of between 4 & 5000 rpm & petrol turbos usually around 6750+. If i recall, the M5 has it's rev limiter closer to 8K rpm, being normally aspirated.

Of course i'm no mechanic so could be taking out of my arse.

 

still 5 NM down on me
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Well, I had my 535D remapped by Upsolute

330 Hp (4.150 rpm) and 660 Nm torque (3.150 rpm)

That means 110 Nm more torque still... ( I took it to an independent Dyno rolling road to test)

And 290 Km/h as speed limitator was eliminated

 

Yep, because they were not looking for it. And maybe they have found it, but why should they tell you? Is there a problem caused by it? No. So, IF there is a problem that can be related to the remap, THEN they will tell you!
They CAN see it, if they WANT to!

 

That's FAST! Anything less that 10sec is smokin'!

 

Iceman, i think that Rob is really putting his ass on the line charging high prices for DMS tuning over other companies, on the claims that his tuning is 100% stealth..

I cant think he'll risk it just by putting BS up