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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 12:47 PM
I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
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Lots of questions you got there, eh?

I suggest you try these guys or these folks to get correct and technically up-to-date info and answers.

Good luck and post pix.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit' date='Oct 24 2005, 03:20 PM
[quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 12:47 PM']I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
[snapback]188123[/snapback]
Lots of questions you got there, eh?

I suggest you try these guys or these folks to get correct and technically up-to-date info and answers.

Good luck and post pix.
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Thanx but those links won't help me too much...1st of all it's american. and 2nd my problem is with the rims not with rubber....
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 10:01 PM
[quote name='ipse dixit' date='Oct 24 2005, 03:20 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 12:47 PM']I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
[snapback]188123[/snapback]
Lots of questions you got there, eh?

I suggest you try these guys or these folks to get correct and technically up-to-date info and answers.

Good luck and post pix.
[snapback]188133[/snapback]
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Thanx but those links won't help me too much...1st of all it's american. and 2nd my problem is with the rims not with rubber....
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9,5 max why should you go for 10 with 19''?

Rubber you mean tires, I think 19s do not rub. Depends also on brand.

PS. I was in Bucharest last week, sorry man, it was nice but how can you live in that smog oh my, If you do not use your car it must be diff. Gigi's MAybach was all the time in front of our hotel. BUt he is driving it himself
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 02:01 PM
[quote name='ipse dixit' date='Oct 24 2005, 03:20 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 12:47 PM']I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
[snapback]188123[/snapback]
Lots of questions you got there, eh?

I suggest you try these guys or these folks to get correct and technically up-to-date info and answers.

Good luck and post pix.
[snapback]188133[/snapback]
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Thanx but those links won't help me too much...1st of all it's american. and 2nd my problem is with the rims not with rubber....
[snapback]188152[/snapback]
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My friend, it does not matter if those retailers are American (or located in America).

Call (or e-mail) and ask them about the info you need, e.g. offsets, tire sizes, wheel fitment, etc.

The E60 is the same (basically) the world over. The wheels you get, either BBS, SSR, Dinan, etc., are also the same the world over.

Call those guys up, get the info you need for either the 19s or 20s and confirm whether they rub or don't rub, whether you will need spacers or not, what the right offset is to get that aggressive look you are going after, etc.

Once you get the info, then go to your local retailer to order the tires and wheels.

But to provide you some short, quick and dirty answers to your questions.

*Yes, the width of the rim will affect the offset.
*Yes, you can run 10s on the rears, but you will need spacers or you will rub (or you could roll your fenders)

If you want a bit of advice, I would suggest 19s and running 8.5 up front and 9.5 on the rears. If you want to go really aggressive, maybe 9 up front and 9.5 on the rears. 10s on the back are a bit much IMO.

Good luck.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 02:47 PM
I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
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Hi: I wish I could help off the top of my head, but I forget the tire/wheel stuff every time soon after I read it. For starters, go to tirerack.com. Tire Rack has good on-line discussions of such things.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Even without calling, Tirerack has a lot of info on wheels on their web site, including good offset information, and the tires u can research as well. They will show many mfrs including BBS that make specific wheels for the E60. A mfr that does make specific wheels for the E60 will generally (far more often than not) have the correct offset for our cars. Furthermore, the better mfrs (BBS being one of then as they make several BMW OEM wheels) have hub centric wheels meaning they are perfect fit with no fear of not being centerd and causing vibration. Good source for research even if U cannot purchase from them.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit' date='Oct 24 2005, 04:31 PM
[quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 02:01 PM'][quote name='ipse dixit' date='Oct 24 2005, 03:20 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 12:47 PM']I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
[snapback]188123[/snapback]
Lots of questions you got there, eh?

I suggest you try these guys or these folks to get correct and technically up-to-date info and answers.

Good luck and post pix.
[snapback]188133[/snapback]
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Thanx but those links won't help me too much...1st of all it's american. and 2nd my problem is with the rims not with rubber....
[snapback]188152[/snapback]
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My friend, it does not matter if those retailers are American (or located in America).

Call (or e-mail) and ask them about the info you need, e.g. offsets, tire sizes, wheel fitment, etc.

The E60 is the same (basically) the world over. The wheels you get, either BBS, SSR, Dinan, etc., are also the same the world over.

Call those guys up, get the info you need for either the 19s or 20s and confirm whether they rub or don't rub, whether you will need spacers or not, what the right offset is to get that aggressive look you are going after, etc.

Once you get the info, then go to your local retailer to order the tires and wheels.

But to provide you some short, quick and dirty answers to your questions.

*Yes, the width of the rim will affect the offset.
*Yes, you can run 10s on the rears, but you will need spacers or you will rub (or you could roll your fenders)

If you want a bit of advice, I would suggest 19s and running 8.5 up front and 9.5 on the rears. If you want to go really aggressive, maybe 9 up front and 9.5 on the rears. 10s on the back are a bit much IMO.

Good luck.
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Thanx alot! Cleared things for me...with the rim width...so it's better to keep the 172M specs...
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cobradav' date='Oct 24 2005, 11:44 PM
Even without calling, Tirerack has a lot of info on wheels on their web site, including good offset information, and the tires u can research as well.? They will show many mfrs including BBS that make specific wheels for the E60.? A mfr that does make specific wheels for the E60 will generally (far more often than not) have the correct offset for our cars.? Furthermore, the better mfrs (BBS being one of then as they make several BMW OEM wheels) have hub centric wheels meaning they are perfect fit with no fear of not being centerd and causing vibration.? Good source for research even if U cannot purchase from them.
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Ok thanx guys alot!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ats77' date='Oct 24 2005, 04:09 PM
[quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 10:01 PM'][quote name='ipse dixit' date='Oct 24 2005, 03:20 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Oct 24 2005, 12:47 PM']I want to change my style 135M rims with some BBS RS-GT on 19's. The reason is that i want a staggered setup (to fill up the space on the back fenders) and love the rs-gt design. The width would have to be 8,5 on the front and 9,5 on the back. 10 on the back is supported? What do you think about running 10 on the back?

And please someone enlighten me on what's the offset? And how does that influence the car/rim/tire? Negative/positive?! What's that and what offset should i choose for the 19's bbs rims? What offset does the 172M rims have? Does the width of the rim affect the offset?
huuuuhh...i'm tired!

SO PLEASE if someone knows more about those things cand u please share your wisdom and opinions?

Thanx alot!

Cheers!
[snapback]188123[/snapback]
Lots of questions you got there, eh?

I suggest you try these guys or these folks to get correct and technically up-to-date info and answers.

Good luck and post pix.
[snapback]188133[/snapback]
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Thanx but those links won't help me too much...1st of all it's american. and 2nd my problem is with the rims not with rubber....
[snapback]188152[/snapback]
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9,5 max why should you go for 10 with 19''?

Rubber you mean tires, I think 19s do not rub. Depends also on brand.

PS. I was in Bucharest last week, sorry man, it was nice but how can you live in that smog oh my, If you do not use your car it must be diff. Gigi's MAybach was all the time in front of our hotel. BUt he is driving it himself
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Ok i got it...9,5 on the back is the correct size.

Rubber means tire most of the time in motorsport talk.

And about the last comment, i agree...it's quite smoggy, but mainly because the country isn't too developed and old cars still drive down the streets and produce alot of polution and you can't just tell them to cam it and walk from this day forward because they can't afford a new, ecologic friendly car. And about that last character...well he's just a "cioban" (in romanian) that means smth like "stupid redneck go back to your sheeps" LOL kiddin' He's an arogant, greedy bastard that won't spend a bit more to get a new maybach (because he bought it second hand!!!!!!). Also he calls himself "the light worrior".
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