What is the BEST body kit material IYO?
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Hi,
I've found a very interesting post in some other (non-BMW) Forum that explained the differences between the available Body Kit materials. ( Modcarclub.com )
However, that post does not have any "real life user feedback", so I don't really know what's the best choice, considering each material's PROs & CONs?
Even though PU has supposedly better fitment than Fiberglass, Fiberglass seems to be the material of choice (probably b/c it's the least expensive to manufacture ?). However, attributes like "brittle, easily crack on impact; left and right side might not be symmetrical"... FG may be the most affordable, but these characteristics don't sound good to me.
So... what's YOUR real-world experience with your Fiberglass, PU, PP+PE and ABS Body Kits... as far as looks, fitment, longevity, repair choices/repair costs etc. are concerned?
(Note: I'm not really interested in brands or retailers yet; just want to figure out the best material first)
Thanks for your input!
I've found a very interesting post in some other (non-BMW) Forum that explained the differences between the available Body Kit materials. ( Modcarclub.com )
However, that post does not have any "real life user feedback", so I don't really know what's the best choice, considering each material's PROs & CONs?
Even though PU has supposedly better fitment than Fiberglass, Fiberglass seems to be the material of choice (probably b/c it's the least expensive to manufacture ?). However, attributes like "brittle, easily crack on impact; left and right side might not be symmetrical"... FG may be the most affordable, but these characteristics don't sound good to me.
So... what's YOUR real-world experience with your Fiberglass, PU, PP+PE and ABS Body Kits... as far as looks, fitment, longevity, repair choices/repair costs etc. are concerned?
(Note: I'm not really interested in brands or retailers yet; just want to figure out the best material first)
Thanks for your input!
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Let's see if some more folks have an opinion in this matter...
So.... leaving Fiberglass out of the equation, what's the best material then? PU (Polyurethane), PE (Polyethylene), PP (Polypropylene), ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)..?
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Thanks, nomis_nehc, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Let's see if some more folks have an opinion in this matter...
So.... leaving Fiberglass out of the equation, what's the best material then? PU (Polyurethane), PE (Polyethylene), PP (Polypropylene), ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)..?
Let's see if some more folks have an opinion in this matter...
So.... leaving Fiberglass out of the equation, what's the best material then? PU (Polyurethane), PE (Polyethylene), PP (Polypropylene), ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)..?
Supposedly, it's [Quote] "a revolutionary product which combines the advantages of fiberglass, plastic, and flex resins to obtain its unique features." [Unquote]
What's your experience with Duraflex in terms of stiffness, repair-ability, fitment etc.? I believe some of this board's sponsors have "Duraflex" materials in their lineup, and I certainly don't question their products. However, I'd rather pay some more for a better fitting/longer lasting/more "forgiving" material - leaving out ($$$) Carbon Fiber altogether - than taking the "cheap route" (and pay the price for it later)...
What do you think?
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One more thing to consider... You've also got to take into account who made the original plug & mold of the body part you're buying, regardless of material. If the mold's fitment is off, the 1000's of parts they reproduce off of it will be too. Case in point: the notorious "too short" sideskirt issue we've seen on the boards here.
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I rather stick with the PU material because most body shops can use heat to reform them easier. As for fit, the tolerances are only off by a few mm vs oem. I rather go with something that can fit you pocket finances. Fiberglass is just to much of a specialized product.
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Duraflex is FRP - basically fiberglass reinforced that is about as brittle as the original, crappy ultimate longevity.
Our experience is very simple, the PP bumpers are as resilient and flexible as ABS, just as paintable, and are not as expensive.
We used to sell some FRP/FG parts early on and found that they don't work well for our applications. Not all PP is created equal and there are really on a few companies that do it well. We are lucky to have found one of those companies.
As for ABS that tends to be the best and most expensive and not recommended due to price only (found on OEM) - you get 95% of the ABS properties with PP in real world (not test lab) applications.
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For example, to concur with what was stated above. the MOLD is the key, if the mold is good, the material will be easier to work with. Our kits that we sell, strangely, look like the exact same mold CAD design as the factory - same exact spots where the mold cut outs are done - so that is a key contributor as well.
Our experience is very simple, the PP bumpers are as resilient and flexible as ABS, just as paintable, and are not as expensive.
We used to sell some FRP/FG parts early on and found that they don't work well for our applications. Not all PP is created equal and there are really on a few companies that do it well. We are lucky to have found one of those companies.
As for ABS that tends to be the best and most expensive and not recommended due to price only (found on OEM) - you get 95% of the ABS properties with PP in real world (not test lab) applications.
EDIT:
For example, to concur with what was stated above. the MOLD is the key, if the mold is good, the material will be easier to work with. Our kits that we sell, strangely, look like the exact same mold CAD design as the factory - same exact spots where the mold cut outs are done - so that is a key contributor as well.
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One more thing to consider... You've also got to take into account who made the original plug & mold of the body part you're buying, regardless of material. If the mold's fitment is off, the 1000's of parts they reproduce off of it will be too. Case in point: the notorious "too short" sideskirt issue we've seen on the boards here.
I thought replicas should be 95% of the original (total fitment, materials, color, etc...)in order for them to be legal. Otherwise they would be "counterfiets" and could be sued if they look and fit 100% (like a replica w or w\o the BMW logo).
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That's great info, you guys... thanks much for sharing!!
So, umnitza... what's up with the $800 M5Tech body kit special in your post?
Did you put that in your sig just for me... LOL? It has my name written allover, so it seems, and might just be what I am looking for.
Can you share some details about this special, and will it fit my 2007 530i w/ Sports Package (no PDC)? What's the material it's made of?
- Thx!
So, umnitza... what's up with the $800 M5Tech body kit special in your post?
Did you put that in your sig just for me... LOL? It has my name written allover, so it seems, and might just be what I am looking for.
Can you share some details about this special, and will it fit my 2007 530i w/ Sports Package (no PDC)? What's the material it's made of?
- Thx!