Warning against HREs
01-13-2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tomwid' post='223880' date='Jan 13 2006, 04:09 PM
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Interesting tid-bit. Talking to IMSA and Viper Racing League sterwards. found HRE's are banned ...
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Posted by Mike S on 2005-06-05 20:17:58
in both series due to too many failures.
NINE, yes NINE failures in one race weekend Vipers.
Apparently the PCA is on their way to banning HRE's as well.
The racers have always called them "Fools Fashion" and i thought that was a little rough until I started seeing them fail at track events and how easily they bend and corrode.
Then, after Leslie had problems with hers corroding and I spoke with one of the owners, I realized quickly they were WAY out of reality as to strength and design.
Wasn't really surprised that they were banned (was at the meeting), but was surprised at ALL the problems reported.
Unreal for such an expensive wheel.
Apparently tolerances are sooooo poor that the tires often rotate on the wheels themselves as the rims are often slightly too small.
Interesting tid-bit. Talking to IMSA and Viper Racing League sterwards. found HRE's are banned ...
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Posted by Mike S on 2005-06-05 20:17:58
in both series due to too many failures.
NINE, yes NINE failures in one race weekend Vipers.
Apparently the PCA is on their way to banning HRE's as well.
The racers have always called them "Fools Fashion" and i thought that was a little rough until I started seeing them fail at track events and how easily they bend and corrode.
Then, after Leslie had problems with hers corroding and I spoke with one of the owners, I realized quickly they were WAY out of reality as to strength and design.
Wasn't really surprised that they were banned (was at the meeting), but was surprised at ALL the problems reported.
Unreal for such an expensive wheel.
Apparently tolerances are sooooo poor that the tires often rotate on the wheels themselves as the rims are often slightly too small.
01-13-2006, 04:07 PM
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This is old news.
Besides, why would you take HREs to the track in the first place? They weren't designed for that...
HRE is popular in the tuning crowd mainly for their looks - minimalistic spoke designs with huge lips. The larger the lip, the weaker the wheel. HREs are for pimping, and are fine for everyday street driving.
Don't get me wrong, I like HREs. I think their wheels look great. They are high end street wheels, but they are not high end track wheels. Don't assume just because they are expensive that they must be good for the track.
There is no corelation between the price of a wheel and its performance. Its all about marketing. Companies charge whatever price customers are willing to pay. Giovanna and Davin wheels are also very expensive - $1,000 per wheel. But would you take them onto a track? Absolutely not. They were designed to look good, not for racing. Hell, 4 of those new Asanti rims cost $1 million! And they must be the strongest rims on the planet cause they're MADE OUT OF DIAMONDS BABY! Would they be good on the track?
If you want a serious wheel for the track, its all about BBS.
Besides, why would you take HREs to the track in the first place? They weren't designed for that...
HRE is popular in the tuning crowd mainly for their looks - minimalistic spoke designs with huge lips. The larger the lip, the weaker the wheel. HREs are for pimping, and are fine for everyday street driving.
Don't get me wrong, I like HREs. I think their wheels look great. They are high end street wheels, but they are not high end track wheels. Don't assume just because they are expensive that they must be good for the track.
There is no corelation between the price of a wheel and its performance. Its all about marketing. Companies charge whatever price customers are willing to pay. Giovanna and Davin wheels are also very expensive - $1,000 per wheel. But would you take them onto a track? Absolutely not. They were designed to look good, not for racing. Hell, 4 of those new Asanti rims cost $1 million! And they must be the strongest rims on the planet cause they're MADE OUT OF DIAMONDS BABY! Would they be good on the track?
If you want a serious wheel for the track, its all about BBS.
01-13-2006, 07:13 PM
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It's true that tracking a car puts a very heavy toll on the rims. We would probably never see anything like that happen on the street.
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Originally Posted by tomwid' post='224015' date='Jan 13 2006, 11:13 PM
It's true that tracking a car puts a very heavy toll on the rims. We would probably never see anything like that happen on the street.
Having the car on the race tracnk does not make you ultimate racer beyond any limits.... you don't get that way over the limit at all......
so I don't take this as an excuse for the poor quality of the wheels.....
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Having the car on the race tracnk does not make you ultimate racer beyond any limits.... you don't get that way over the limit at all......
so I don't take this as an excuse for the poor quality of the wheels.....
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i repeat the picture is not even a hre wheels its a brand called kinesis
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Originally Posted by heezy545i' post='224076' date='Jan 14 2006, 01:18 PM
Like someone said, this is old news. Any wheel can break, and just for the sake of repeating it, that is not an HRE wheel, but a kinesis.
Not sure how these rumors get so widespread, but just call one of those leagues where HRE is supposedly banned and you'll find that there is no truth to it. Just propaganda against hre.
Not sure how these rumors get so widespread, but just call one of those leagues where HRE is supposedly banned and you'll find that there is no truth to it. Just propaganda against hre.
Thats sayd some thing are disputibel. Like the fact that all top brands now sell step lip wheels and if you drive those wheels in heavy rain , your cars starts to vibrate because water pills up in the inner wheel, its cant get out and cars start to shake heavely. I dont mind that but i do think the top brands should advertise this more because a lot of people dont know this and panic if it happens to them.
I still think Hre is a top wheel. I own a set for my other car. But its a show wheel. It cost 7000 a 8000 dollars including the tires to own a wheel like that. Its just silly to crash over curves in road turns with sutch a expensive wheel.
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Ahh, I edited my post, but to late. I think they are indeed banned from the viper racing league. When I read about this previously, I somehow remembered some of the allegations to be false.
This is the link I read though previously. May have to sort through some BS, but there is some good info in there. http://6speedonline.com/forums/showthread....ed&pagenumber=1
This is the link I read though previously. May have to sort through some BS, but there is some good info in there. http://6speedonline.com/forums/showthread....ed&pagenumber=1
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Originally Posted by heezy545i' post='224076' date='Jan 14 2006, 01:18 PM
Like someone said, this is old news. Any wheel can break, and just for the sake of repeating it, that is not an HRE wheel, but a kinesis.
Not sure how these rumors get so widespread, but just call one of those leagues where HRE is supposedly banned and you'll find that there is no truth to it. Just propaganda against hre.
Not sure how these rumors get so widespread, but just call one of those leagues where HRE is supposedly banned and you'll find that there is no truth to it. Just propaganda against hre.
Thats sayd some thing are disputibel. Like the fact that all top brands now sell step lip wheels and if you drive those wheels in heavy rain , your cars starts to vibrate because water pills up in the inner wheel, its cant get out and cars start to shake heavely. I dont mind that but i do think the top brands should advertise this more because a lot of people dont know this and panic if it happens to them.
I still think Hre is a top wheel. I own a set for my other car. But its a show wheel. It cost 7000 a 8000 dollars including the tires to own a wheel like that. Its just silly to crash over curves in road turns with sutch a expensive wheel.