Upgrading non-sport suspension
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Get some coilovers! You seem like a guy who doesn't like to fool around. With a set of KW V2's, you can adjust your ride to whatever height you desire and adjust the dampening to be as stiff or soft as you like.
A guy is selling them in the classified section for $1200. They normally retail anywhere from $1800-2300. Buy these!
A guy is selling them in the classified section for $1200. They normally retail anywhere from $1800-2300. Buy these!
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Having recently installed H&R's on the non-sport struts, I must say that the comfort/ride quality is near stock, UNTIL you hit some speedbumps or potholes. The H&Rs (and perhaps Eibach) springs are not tuned for the non-sport struts. The H&R spring rates are stiffer than stock. Coupled with the stock non-sport dampers, you're going to get a lot of unnecessary rebound. Basically, the struts aren't dampening enough. It's good enough for daily driving, but I wouldn't dare track this car or drive it too aggressively in the twisties.
Aesthetically, the ride height is perfect. Coming from a non-sport, the drop makes the car more aggressive, especially with 19's/20's. No rubbing issues here.
I'd recommend getting either the H&Rs or Eibachs and some Koni or Bilstein's installed at the same time. The shop won't charge you more since it's actually an easier job to install new springs/struts since they don't have to remove the stock coils.
I'd shy away from coilovers unless you're really serious about tracking the car.
Aesthetically, the ride height is perfect. Coming from a non-sport, the drop makes the car more aggressive, especially with 19's/20's. No rubbing issues here.
I'd recommend getting either the H&Rs or Eibachs and some Koni or Bilstein's installed at the same time. The shop won't charge you more since it's actually an easier job to install new springs/struts since they don't have to remove the stock coils.
I'd shy away from coilovers unless you're really serious about tracking the car.
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Originally Posted by spindrome' post='507899' date='Dec 17 2007, 07:44 PM
The H&R spring rates are stiffer than stock. Coupled with the stock non-sport dampers, you're going to get a lot of unnecessary rebound.
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I agree with KnIgHtCoM (Ryan) and get coilovers. It'll cost more than springs but worth it in the long run. Believe me when I say this b/c I went through 3 suspensions on the 545i. A cheaper alternative to KW are Bilstein PSS9 which I had on the 545i.
I agree with KnIgHtCoM (Ryan) and get coilovers. It'll cost more than springs but worth it in the long run. Believe me when I say this b/c I went through 3 suspensions on the 545i. A cheaper alternative to KW are Bilstein PSS9 which I had on the 545i.
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Originally Posted by KnIgHtCoM' post='507837' date='Dec 17 2007, 02:49 PM
Get some coilovers! You seem like a guy who doesn't like to fool around. With a set of KW V2's, you can adjust your ride to whatever height you desire and adjust the dampening to be as stiff or soft as you like.
A guy is selling them in the classified section for $1200. They normally retail anywhere from $1800-2300. Buy these!
A guy is selling them in the classified section for $1200. They normally retail anywhere from $1800-2300. Buy these!
Thanks for the info guys.
Ryan - you've got 20's 245/F 275/R? Any issues with rubbing?
Another question: are offsets specific to each car or are offsets wheel specific? Thanks for your help with the newbie question.
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My Ride: 2007 E60 530i
Color: Jet Black/Black Anthracite
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M-Tech Kit | M5 Mirrors, Trunk Finisher | Jet Black Kidney Surrounds | Madico Charcool Tint 54%, 35%
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WHEELS & SUSPENSION:
Work VS-XX 20x9, 20x10 | Toyo T1R 245/30/20, Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 295/25/20 | KW V2 Coilovers | Rogue Engineering 15mm Spacers
I'm running 245/30 in the front and 285/25 in the rear. My fenders are rolled in the back and I have a 15mm spacer on my front wheels. Absolutely no rubbing. I 'm even considering 255/30 and 295/25 for my next set of tires.
The reason I put spacers on the front was because I wanted to push the wheels out to make them flush with the front fender and I was getting a little bit of rubbing on the inside of my wheel against the coilover when I turned the steering wheel all the way to either side because I dropped my car on the lowest setting.
Offsets are wheel specific.
The reason I put spacers on the front was because I wanted to push the wheels out to make them flush with the front fender and I was getting a little bit of rubbing on the inside of my wheel against the coilover when I turned the steering wheel all the way to either side because I dropped my car on the lowest setting.
Offsets are wheel specific.
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Originally Posted by pimm' post='507881' date='Dec 17 2007, 04:26 PM
What is the difference between the Eibach pro-kit and the sportlines ?? i would like to change mine but i am a little worried it will drop the front to low. Any other advice following this thread please !
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Not to hijack the post, but I am looking to lower my 05 525 w/sport....I would like to lower it and add 20" rims. What kind of combo am I going to have to run to be able to do this? And nerweezy can you recommend anyone for the install?
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Originally Posted by neocon' post='510649' date='Dec 26 2007, 04:32 AM
Not to hijack the post, but I am looking to lower my 05 525 w/sport....I would like to lower it and add 20" rims. What kind of combo am I going to have to run to be able to do this? And nerweezy can you recommend anyone for the install?
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also, where are you from? if so cal, i got my springs installed by eurorev in inglewood. many members have gone to them as well.