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rsyed 05-16-2008 02:40 AM

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...some of you guys might have seen, but on day 1 I took my car apart and did the m5 retrofit. My car is now a week old and my confidence is sky high so I went to the dealer on wednesday and ordered the following parts that I picked up today :D

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There are 3 stages to this exercise

Stage 1: retrofit just the SAT lever and the ECU with no SAT functionality

Stage 2: have the car coded for SAT functionality (Sports mode, faster shift times etc.)

Stage 3: paddle shifter retrofit

Stage 1 is due this weekend. I am 50/50 on whether stage 1 will work. My engineering background tells me, it should not work because the ECU has no firmware running on it so it will not work. Let us see - more to come later..

wish me luck :)

cu rumman

xBMWx 05-16-2008 03:55 AM

Is this the "kit" you PMed me about -- the one where a BMW dealer had retrofitted the SAT on a 535d? If so, hopefully they gave you good advice and instructions... GOOD LUCK!! :thumbsup:

rsyed 05-16-2008 04:29 AM

this is not a retrofit kit, but I will make it one...

if all goes well, I will post DIY on the forum...

wish me luck

jbsapphire 05-16-2008 05:03 AM

This I think will be the first, awesome. Very best of luck. Keep us posted :number1:

nicke60gre 05-16-2008 05:23 AM

Is this compatible with Pre-LCI cars as well, or just only for LCI with standard Auto? :think:

rsyed 05-16-2008 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by nicke60gre' post='581896' date='May 16 2008, 03:23 PM
Is this compatible with Pre-LCI cars as well, or just only for LCI with standard Auto? :think:

no no, it is only for LCI cars with the standard "ugly" automatic shifter...

nicke60gre 05-16-2008 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by rsyed' post='581897' date='May 16 2008, 04:25 PM
no no, it is only for LCI cars with the standard "ugly" automatic shifter...

Nice, good luck to you LCIers, seems doable :cool:

Dandle 05-16-2008 06:42 AM

Is the only difference with the sports automatic transmission the selector lever and ecu then? Seems it must be the only difference after looking at bmws site the sport auto is only another ?100 on the 535d.

rsyed 05-16-2008 06:45 AM

Yes, the difference is the ECU and selecter lever, and the Sports button

As said, stage 1 is to get this thing physically in. Stage 2 is to get the dealer to enable the SAT features on my car. And Stage 3 are the paddles...

cheers

Dandle 05-16-2008 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by rsyed' post='581922' date='May 16 2008, 02:45 PM
Yes, the difference is the ECU and selecter lever, and the Sports button

As said, stage 1 is to get this thing physically in. Stage 2 is to get the dealer to enable the SAT features on my car. And Stage 3 are the paddles...

cheers

Thanks for that. Out of interest how much did the parts set you back?

rsyed 05-16-2008 06:49 AM

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here u go: the deltas:
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rsyed 05-16-2008 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Dandle' post='581923' date='May 16 2008, 04:47 PM
Thanks for that. Out of interest how much did the parts set you back?

450 EUR :(

EDIT: forgot to add the 100 EUR for the console ocver I have yet to buy, so in total EUR 550.

EBMCS03 05-16-2008 10:57 AM

Wow good luck!

530dA 05-16-2008 02:20 PM

Nice Mod's Rsyed ;-)

I wan't see a big picture from your LCi car :D

The colour white is very nice.

rikeegee 05-16-2008 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by 530dA' post='582196' date='May 16 2008, 03:20 PM
Nice Mod's Rsyed ;-)

I wan't see a big picture from your LCi car :D

The colour white is very nice.

This is cool, I am interested to see the results as well.

rsyed 05-16-2008 03:17 PM

Quick update - stage 1 is successful :D :D :D :D

DIY will be coming during the course of saturday...

rsyed 05-16-2008 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by 530dA' post='582196' date='May 17 2008, 12:20 AM
Nice Mod's Rsyed ;-)

I wan't see a big picture from your LCi car :D

The colour white is very nice.

check out this thread - there are some pics with your contribution :)

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?show...54863&hl=rsyed

cu

rsyed 05-17-2008 05:13 AM

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Here you go - here is the DIY writeup. Hope this is of some help...

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AlexFW 05-17-2008 06:17 AM

From the title I thought you are retrofitting the transmission.. :|

jbsapphire 05-17-2008 06:56 AM

Hats off to you sir, nice work, also very informative & well thought off DIY guide. Again :thumbsup:

andy545 05-17-2008 07:06 AM

Good job on the DIY - :thumbsup:

Bteljuice 05-17-2008 07:08 AM

whts the difference with the SAT and the normal AT. when i look at the DIY that rsyed posted, the stick shift looks the same.except shorter and there a sport button under the idrive knob. plus, does the button work? or just looks?

rsyed 05-17-2008 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='582505 (Post 582549)
whts the difference with the SAT and the normal AT. when i look at the DIY that rsyed posted, the stick shift looks the same.except shorter and there a sport button under the idrive knob. plus, does the button work? or just looks?

check out this thread:

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...mp;hl=automatic

Like i wrote in my previous thread, the sports button has no functionality. It needs to be coded by the dealer... At the moment, stage 1 is all about looks...

Bteljuice 05-17-2008 08:10 AM

oohhh okkk.sorry,ive been studying all day.not concentrating much, So paddle shoud be working after Stage 2.niceee.How much do u think Stage 2 will charge u.I mean the $tealer?

Mach_666 05-17-2008 08:20 AM

verr?ckt, aber mir gef?llts ziemlich! :cool:
(crazy, but i like it a lot.. hehe)

AlexFW 05-17-2008 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by rsyed' post='582560' date='May 17 2008, 04:32 PM
yeah sure

:)




- i leave such mods to experts like you....
Just leave it to someone who isn't happy with his gearbox or engine .

nikconnor 05-17-2008 10:00 AM

I like the shorter stick, would it be possible just to change the lever and nothing else, or would you have to change the surround and gaiter etc.

slickrick 05-17-2008 01:06 PM

That is awesome. I like the sport shifter (SAT) better than my non sport shifter. How is it working and is it just like the non sport shifter. If so I may go for this retro fit down the road.

Thanks, Rick....

rsyed 05-17-2008 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by nikconnor' post='582632 (Post 582708)
That is awesome. I like the sport shifter (SAT) better than my non sport shifter. How is it working and is it just like the non sport shifter. If so I may go for this retro fit down the road.

Thanks, Rick....

You have exactly the same functionality as with the non-sport shifter. It looks awesome, feels awesome and is not as fragile as the non-sport shifter. I would do the retrofit anytime again..

slickrick 05-17-2008 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by rsyed' post='582747' date='May 17 2008, 06:32 PM
No, the shifter on its own is not possible. You need to change the shifter, the ECU, the console cover and buy the sports button!



You have exactly the same functionality as with the non-sport shifter. It looks awesome, feels awesome and is not as fragile as the non-sport shifter. I would do the retrofit anytime again..

Ahh that's f%$#ing great. I like the fact the that you can change the shifter and not have to modify wiring and other things. It's basically a plug and play item except for the sports button. I like it allot....
Total in US dollars?

Let us know when stage 2 is done and does it work well.

Thanks, Rick...

slickrick 05-17-2008 04:42 PM

Bump for a great mod....

rsyed 05-17-2008 11:09 PM

Hey Rick,

I paid about 550 EUR for all the parts, but this includes 20% tax.

I suggest call up a dealer and ask them for a quote - you have the part numbers.

cu rumman

bruce_miranda 05-18-2008 01:49 AM

What's the price difference when you order this from the factory. Not that I'm interested (I'm a manual fellow) but it will just give people an idea. There are so many DIY retrofits that are cheaper done after you get the car - so is this one of them?

rsyed 05-18-2008 04:48 AM

definitely not.

the total retrofit incl. new steering wheel + paddles will be about 1500 eur. from the factory, this is an 100 eur upgrade :(

slickrick 05-18-2008 10:29 AM

That's why I just want to upgrade the shifter, for the the look and feel.

nikconnor 06-21-2008 12:58 PM

Found an M% steeering wheel on ebay if its any use ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-E60-M5-STEERING-WHEEL-WITH-AIR-BAG-AND-PADDLE-SHIFT_W0QQitemZ320264161545QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320264161545&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

rsyed 06-21-2008 03:01 PM

tnx Nik...

fastkevin 06-21-2008 07:12 PM

Did you get it to work?

kent7296 07-14-2008 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by rsyed' post='583069' date='May 18 2008, 08:48 AM
definitely not.

the total retrofit incl. new steering wheel + paddles will be about 1500 eur. from the factory, this is an 100 eur upgrade :(

Hello! I am Kent from Taiwan be a E60LCI driver and I would like to ask how about your SAT system ... everything working well ?
Because I like this SAT very well and would like aslo to retrofit it .... do you have any suggestion if I would like to change from my Steptronic to SAT ? :huh:

Thanks

Kent

rsyed 07-14-2008 01:01 PM

Hi Kent,

yes it works... What car do you have?

rumman


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